How long should a pinlock last?
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I've had my Schuberth C5 since roughly November time.
I've only done maybe 2/3,000 miles or so since then and the pinlock seems to have totally given up the ghost.
I've tried pressing the pins out and rotating them but any which way just ends up with either the top or bottom not sitting flat - which means fogging up.
I'm sure they used to last a reasonably long time on previous ones?
The helmet is from Motolegends so there's no way I'm taking a day off of work to go back there due to their ludicrous opening hours (monday to friday only).
Am I expecting too much from them now or do I need to store/clean etc it differently? I've only been using bike specific cleaner on the helmet.
I've only done maybe 2/3,000 miles or so since then and the pinlock seems to have totally given up the ghost.
I've tried pressing the pins out and rotating them but any which way just ends up with either the top or bottom not sitting flat - which means fogging up.
I'm sure they used to last a reasonably long time on previous ones?
The helmet is from Motolegends so there's no way I'm taking a day off of work to go back there due to their ludicrous opening hours (monday to friday only).
Am I expecting too much from them now or do I need to store/clean etc it differently? I've only been using bike specific cleaner on the helmet.
Mine have always lasted roughly 3 years (about 50k miles) which is about how long I keep a helmet for in general.
If its acting up so early the silicon bead around the edges may be dirty or have a warp in it, so worth washing in hot water to make it felxible again, with ones where the bead is starting to give up I've had success for using a bit of silicon grease to get it reseated, just don't use pertroleum based ones as it will make it perish quickly!
If its acting up so early the silicon bead around the edges may be dirty or have a warp in it, so worth washing in hot water to make it felxible again, with ones where the bead is starting to give up I've had success for using a bit of silicon grease to get it reseated, just don't use pertroleum based ones as it will make it perish quickly!
from what i understand from ML staff - when i went for a helmet fitting
keeping the helmet in cold damp conditions such as a garage is no good due to the properties of the pinlock, they ought to be inside in the warm to allow the pinlock to dry out.
it appears to be the case as there is a difference between use when stored in the garage and in the kitchen - don’t shoot the messenger it is just what i was told
odd that in this day and age with the technology we have, we are relying a flimsy bit of plastic to stop fogging that is obviously temperamental and not that robust
keeping the helmet in cold damp conditions such as a garage is no good due to the properties of the pinlock, they ought to be inside in the warm to allow the pinlock to dry out.
it appears to be the case as there is a difference between use when stored in the garage and in the kitchen - don’t shoot the messenger it is just what i was told
odd that in this day and age with the technology we have, we are relying a flimsy bit of plastic to stop fogging that is obviously temperamental and not that robust
GSA_fattie said:
from what i understand from ML staff - when i went for a helmet fitting
keeping the helmet in cold damp conditions such as a garage is no good due to the properties of the pinlock, they ought to be inside in the warm to allow the pinlock to dry out.
it appears to be the case as there is a difference between use when stored in the garage and in the kitchen - don t shoot the messenger it is just what i was told
odd that in this day and age with the technology we have, we are relying a flimsy bit of plastic to stop fogging that is obviously temperamental and not that robust
Certainly found this the case with mine, more so at the start end of the year.keeping the helmet in cold damp conditions such as a garage is no good due to the properties of the pinlock, they ought to be inside in the warm to allow the pinlock to dry out.
it appears to be the case as there is a difference between use when stored in the garage and in the kitchen - don t shoot the messenger it is just what i was told
odd that in this day and age with the technology we have, we are relying a flimsy bit of plastic to stop fogging that is obviously temperamental and not that robust
Far Cough said:
Remove it and wash it in light soapy hot water. Leave it to dry after wiping off the excess water with a very very soft cloth unless you want scratches. Refit. This gives mine a new lease of life every time but in the end they succumb to constant cleaning.
Yep I'm sure it's in their docs to rinse it and let dry to 'rejuvenate' or whatnot. I slightly forgot this and used my visor cleaner spray whilst sat at a cafe in Vianden last summer. It caused all sorts of weird rippling on the surface and I thought I'd ruined it so put it in my tank bag. The next day though it was fine. Well, as fine as I would expect, as in the thing still gets creeping misting in the bad times.Biker9090 said:
Thanks.
Yeah, oddly it's never been kept anywhere damp, always been on a sideboard inside.
Might have another look otherwise it looks to be looking like ordering a replacement
Might be worth a try, but check the hole size. If its a generic size you can get a bag of £20 for a few quid. Yeah, oddly it's never been kept anywhere damp, always been on a sideboard inside.
Might have another look otherwise it looks to be looking like ordering a replacement
https://www.google.com/search?q=pinlock+pins+Schub...
it wont allow me to post the ebay link, but you get the idea.
Edited by moanthebairns on Tuesday 17th March 12:13
Been wanting to get my visor and pinlock replaced as its looking really scratched in sunlight now, 3 year old AGV K3. But looking at £70 for visor and £30 for the pinlock on a helmet that was £170. Makes me want to just get a new lid but I suppose that's the what the aim of the pricing is.
All I can offer is probably what you have tried already... taking the pinlock off cleaning it and letting it dry somewhere warm for a day and doing the same to the visor. When putting it back in use your knees to hold one end of the visor and with your hand bend the visor so that it is nearly flat (I find this quite alarming and expect it to snap like a school ruler) and put the pin lock in with the pins on the loosest setting and then wiggling it so that it is flat on the visor before releasing pressure. Then checking if there are gaps with a piece of paper, if there are gaps then try again with the pins on a slightly tighter setting.
P675 said:
Been wanting to get my visor and pinlock replaced as its looking really scratched in sunlight now, 3 year old AGV K3. But looking at £70 for visor and £30 for the pinlock on a helmet that was £170. Makes me want to just get a new lid but I suppose that's the what the aim of the pricing is.
eBay, get a knock off one for £15. P675 said:
moanthebairns said:
eBay, get a knock off one for £15.
Are they going to be impact and fog resistant, and seal properly though?The seal on they lids is pretty pish at the best of times, its a budget lid.
GriffoDP said:
Yep I'm sure it's in their docs to rinse it and let dry to 'rejuvenate' or whatnot. I slightly forgot this and used my visor cleaner spray whilst sat at a cafe in Vianden last summer. It caused all sorts of weird rippling on the surface and I thought I'd ruined it so put it in my tank bag. The next day though it was fine. Well, as fine as I would expect, as in the thing still gets creeping misting in the bad times.
As you have found out , they do not respond well to any form of chemical cleaner. It gives the surface a weird effect that should be avoided. Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff