Car too old? No job for you
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Muddle238

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4,376 posts

136 months

Tuesday 17th March
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g7yd202ngo

A girl had her job application for an estate agent rejected because apparently her car was too old.

The estate agent claims that cars over 10 years old have significantly more breakdowns and that the safety of their staff is of upmost importance, hence the rule about a sub-10 year old vehicle.

More like, shiny estate agents want shiny dressed staff turning up in shiny cars to flog or let property, all image and nothing to do with reliability.

Ironically a 2014 Citroen C1 is such a simple and rugged little car, it's probably more reliable than a lot of newer, shinier vehicles with less to go wrong.

normalbloke

8,500 posts

242 months

Tuesday 17th March
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This is such a click baity non story. They even had the Daily Wail compo shot in there for good measure.

jonsp

1,468 posts

179 months

Tuesday 17th March
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Wouldn't it be perfectly normal for companies requiring employees use their own car to specify maximum age of the car? Reliability, company image and employee safety.

If she's serious about estate agency shouldn't be hard to find a firm that runs pool cars for viewings etc.

Still she's an attractive girl and got herself some decent publicity so maybe a social media career....

Rod200SX

8,166 posts

199 months

Tuesday 17th March
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I don't really agree but I do get it.

I run an estate & letting agency. We've 3 fleet cars, all 2019 Kia Rios. Generally reliable but now at an age where more work is needing done, mostly city driving so clutches, batteries etc.

The one I use has just started to get a slippy clutch, all (good) local garages are up to their eyes and booked up. This means I'm limited for further reaching/motorway stuff to days where another car is free for me to borrow and It'll be out of action for a day whilst it gets done.

It's a relatively cut throat industry and not being able to get to an appointment could result in losing a multiple £k lead, viewing etc.

Personally, I'd rather have cars you know and trust reliability wise, even if a bit older, but at least with new stuff you'll typically have loaner cars whilst they're in for warranty work.

Muddle238

Original Poster:

4,376 posts

136 months

Tuesday 17th March
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jonsp said:
Wouldn't it be perfectly normal for companies requiring employees use their own car to specify maximum age of the car? Reliability, company image and employee safety.
Personally I think it's none of the companies business. If a company wants to portray a certain image then it's up to them to provide the employee with a vehicle for them to use, to portray whatever image the company thinks it's portraying.

If an individual is having to use their own car, or even just to apply for a job, it's really none of the company's business.

When you go to a viewing, you don't judge the property based on what number appears on the estate agent's vehicle. To me it's just incredibly shallow and all this talk of "reliability" is utter nonsense, any vehicle will be reliable provided it's looked after. Cars don't suddenly throw a rod the moment they hit their 10th birthday.

Employee safety? A 2015 Volvo XC90 is banned yet a 2026 Leapmotor T03 is absolutely fine. I know which I'd rather have a crash in...


boyse7en

7,964 posts

188 months

Tuesday 17th March
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Rod200SX said:
I don't really agree but I do get it.

I run an estate & letting agency. We've 3 fleet cars, all 2019 Kia Rios. Generally reliable but now at an age where more work is needing done, mostly city driving so clutches, batteries etc.

The one I use has just started to get a slippy clutch, all (good) local garages are up to their eyes and booked up. This means I'm limited for further reaching/motorway stuff to days where another car is free for me to borrow and It'll be out of action for a day whilst it gets done.

It's a relatively cut throat industry and not being able to get to an appointment could result in losing a multiple £k lead, viewing etc.

Personally, I'd rather have cars you know and trust reliability wise, even if a bit older, but at least with new stuff you'll typically have loaner cars whilst they're in for warranty work.
Clutch going on a 2019 car sounds terrible. My 2004 Saab and 2007 Honda both have clutches that work and they are on 193,000 and 203,000 miles respectively. Maybe older cars aren't so unreliable... smile

Rod200SX

8,166 posts

199 months

Tuesday 17th March
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boyse7en said:
Rod200SX said:
I don't really agree but I do get it.

I run an estate & letting agency. We've 3 fleet cars, all 2019 Kia Rios. Generally reliable but now at an age where more work is needing done, mostly city driving so clutches, batteries etc.

The one I use has just started to get a slippy clutch, all (good) local garages are up to their eyes and booked up. This means I'm limited for further reaching/motorway stuff to days where another car is free for me to borrow and It'll be out of action for a day whilst it gets done.

It's a relatively cut throat industry and not being able to get to an appointment could result in losing a multiple £k lead, viewing etc.

Personally, I'd rather have cars you know and trust reliability wise, even if a bit older, but at least with new stuff you'll typically have loaner cars whilst they're in for warranty work.
Clutch going on a 2019 car sounds terrible. My 2004 Saab and 2007 Honda both have clutches that work and they are on 193,000 and 203,000 miles respectively. Maybe older cars aren't so unreliable... smile
Cheap city cars, mostly lots of town driving all day every day. Mixed standards of driving, too hehe

My old silvia gave up it's original clutch at around 130k miles & about 15 years at 280BHP. All context!

As an aside, I remember the original toyota aygos/ca etc being really short shelf life for clutches but cheap as chips to repair when it does need done.

Sheepshanks

39,315 posts

142 months

Tuesday 17th March
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jonsp said:
Wouldn't it be perfectly normal for companies requiring employees use their own car to specify maximum age of the car? Reliability, company image and employee safety.
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Ours was max 6yrs old. But we were paid a hefty car allowance, and mileage - I bet the estate agency pays petrol money, if that.

InitialDave

14,349 posts

142 months

Tuesday 17th March
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Especially for a teenager applying for a trainee/junior role, that's not in the least bit a problematic car choice.

If companies want people to have a certain age or type of car, they have three choices:

- supply a car that fits their metrics
- provide sufficient funds over and above the base compensation package for the role to allow the employee to source a suitable car
- get used to being told to fk off


mick987

1,778 posts

133 months

Tuesday 17th March
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I always thought that female estate agents went out in pairs since the Suzy Lampart murder / disappearance.

RizzoTheRat

28,123 posts

215 months

Tuesday 17th March
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It's a relatively common clause when someone takes the cash option instead of a company car to specify it must be under a certain age, but that's a bit cheeky when its their own car and the company's not paying towards it.

A place I used to work changed their expenses system to allow me to commute by motorbike biggrin

Tankrizzo

7,926 posts

216 months

Tuesday 17th March
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jonsp said:
Wouldn't it be perfectly normal for companies requiring employees use their own car to specify maximum age of the car? Reliability, company image and employee safety.
Yes, it's commonly called Grey Fleet and there are usually fairly well-defined rules about what sort of private car you can operate on company business, as ultimately the company sometimes has liability if you end up having an accident on company journeys and the condition of the car is a factor.

JagLover

46,087 posts

258 months

Tuesday 17th March
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mick987 said:
I always thought that female estate agents went out in pairs since the Suzy Lampart murder / disappearance.
I have seen a number alone on viewings so think that is an urban myth.

AbbeyNormal

6,320 posts

181 months

Tuesday 17th March
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She will never know how that car saved her from the worst possible career she could ever enter.

She should stick to making coffee.

LunarOne

6,937 posts

160 months

Tuesday 17th March
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I saw this on the BBC site and thought it was a complete non-story. As if there isn't enough going on in the world - why do the BBC need to stoop to this kind of sensationalist nonsense.

jonsp

1,468 posts

179 months

Tuesday 17th March
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LunarOne said:
I saw this on the BBC site and thought it was a complete non-story. As if there isn't enough going on in the world - why do the BBC need to stoop to this kind of sensationalist nonsense.
Presumably she's got herself a good agent to get her publicity as she has a lot of coverage?

dundarach

5,998 posts

251 months

Tuesday 17th March
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JagLover said:
mick987 said:
I always thought that female estate agents went out in pairs since the Suzy Lampart murder / disappearance.
I have seen a number alone on viewings so think that is an urban myth.
Sorry to be an arse, Suzy Lamplugh

normalbloke

8,500 posts

242 months

Tuesday 17th March
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She hasn’t even got to the business insurance shocker yet either..

ThingsBehindTheSun

3,155 posts

54 months

Tuesday 17th March
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AbbeyNormal said:
She will never know how that car saved her from the worst possible career she could ever enter.

She should stick to making coffee.
There is a special place in hell reserved for people who are lettings agents. My experience was so bad that I would never consider being a landlord ever again.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,783 posts

258 months

Tuesday 17th March
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I had a car allowance about two zillion years ago.

The car had to be less than a certain age and also fit certain specifications re number of doors etc. So, nothing new here (as said).

Plus, when you get many applicants for a job you'll be looking for criteria to whittle it down. This criteria is easily measured!