Starting a Running Group - insurance?
Starting a Running Group - insurance?
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boyse7en

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7,955 posts

188 months

Wednesday
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I've been running for a number of years, and through no planning whatsoever I have managed to start a sort of unofficial running group.

Basically, I started doing trail runs because I liked them. A few friends then started coming along on a Sunday morning, and then friends of friends etc to the extent that I can now have anywhere from 2 to 15 people with me on the run.

I set the routes, and we all run together, stopping to regroup at every gate/junction/road crossing/top of hill so no one gets left behind. It's not competitive, but a social outing in the countryside. Communication is vai a Facebook group, where i post up the weeks route and people ask for or offer lifts etc.


Is there anything I should be doing in an official capacity? I'm a bit worried that if someone slips and injures themselves i could be open to being seen as an organised event and sued by Claims4U or similar. I've tried looking for liability insurance, but Sports Insurers only offer "Participant" insurance, where i am insured if I get injured, or "Coach" insurance which does provide liability insurance but requires me to have coaching qualifications from a recognised authority. Normal public liability insurance seems to be only available to businesses, not individuals.

Do i have to pay for coaching qualifications i don't want? Or am i worrying unnecessarily?

egor110

17,622 posts

226 months

Wednesday
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Don't make anything official.

The routes are planned but everyone runs together nobody is in charge, you take part at your own risk.

My running club became uk athletic athilliated and it's a pain in the ass , max groups of 15 etc when it ran absolutely fine previously.

GiantEnemyCrab

7,944 posts

226 months

Wednesday
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What a world we have created where risk (perceived or not) for a bloke going for a run with his muckers generates questions like this.

Just go for a run with your mates, if they spang in then it is on them.

bangerhoarder

731 posts

91 months

Wednesday
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UKA affiliation. Your club will then need to follow the rules laid out by them for an affiliated group, and that will include things like coaches being trained to an appropriate level for the activity (track and off-track differ here), safeguarding and first aid training (online) as well as requirements for the running of the club.

I would avoid for your case. It's an informal run with some mates and you are not coaching.

If you do want to go that direction, it would probably pay to join an existing local(ish) club as that will be massively easier. You will then need to be LiRF/CiRF/++ certified to lead the group with insurance. The club will benefit from more members, and you will be able to access coaching resources. You'll also get other UKA affiliation benefits like cheaper race entries.

towser44

4,060 posts

138 months

Wednesday
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You'll also need to factor in the weather, dark nights etc. The running club I go to occasionally are very careful if it is a little bit frosty/icy and usually cancel, plus it's head torches in the Winter months etc. All far too formal due to the insurance aspect.

boyse7en

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7,955 posts

188 months

Wednesday
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towser44 said:
You'll also need to factor in the weather, dark nights etc. The running club I go to occasionally are very careful if it is a little bit frosty/icy and usually cancel, plus it's head torches in the Winter months etc. All far too formal due to the insurance aspect.
Not too much of a worry. Runs are always done during daylight hours, and off-road frost and ice isn't as lethal as it can be on the road. I wouldn't go out if the weather is obviously risky (hurricane wind or something).

egor110

17,622 posts

226 months

Wednesday
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boyse7en said:
towser44 said:
You'll also need to factor in the weather, dark nights etc. The running club I go to occasionally are very careful if it is a little bit frosty/icy and usually cancel, plus it's head torches in the Winter months etc. All far too formal due to the insurance aspect.
Not too much of a worry. Runs are always done during daylight hours, and off-road frost and ice isn't as lethal as it can be on the road. I wouldn't go out if the weather is obviously risky (hurricane wind or something).
Keep it in formal

alscar

8,128 posts

236 months

Thursday
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I would keep it all “unofficial “and informal - just mates out for a run.
No point in potentially making life more difficult for yourself.