Is the Fusion race now really kicking into gear?
Is the Fusion race now really kicking into gear?
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geeks

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11,168 posts

163 months

Thursday 19th March
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https://interestingengineering.com/energy/fusion-p...

Microsoft have something that is apparently going to be ready in 2028 and Google have signed up to a provider as well.

So, are we finally going to start seeing something viable in the next 10 years?

732NM

11,594 posts

39 months

Thursday 19th March
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No.

hidetheelephants

33,920 posts

217 months

Thursday 19th March
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No also. I'll stick with what's been true since the first public speculations about practical fusion in the early 1950s, it's still 20 years away. hehe It will also remain a consistent generator of PhDs.

Terminator X

19,612 posts

228 months

Friday 20th March
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10 years away, always moving to 10 years away.

TX.

geeks

Original Poster:

11,168 posts

163 months

Friday 20th March
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Spoil sports hehe

France have ITER as well which is funded by the world and its dog.

I reckon the race is now getting started


JoshSm

3,674 posts

61 months

Friday 20th March
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It all looks like one of those projects where the real aim isn't to actually produce something at the other end, its more about the job opportunities. Those are great trains to ride but not if you want product.

It's also one of those things that people persist with because it looks temptingly close even though they realise they have fundamental flaws in the approach. Those happen a lot, even more so when it's a standalone project that people can't afford to give up on as they have nothing else.

Delivery on this one is years out and even once delivered is a research prototype that'll likely be obsolete before it happens and barring some magic breakthrough likely won't do much of anything.

Maybe it'll happen but at current rates of delivery nothing 'production' is happening this century. I doubt anyone working on it is too bothered.

It'd be nice if it did happen but I have little faith that those involved are capable of or interested in doing anything beyond extending sinecures.

_Rodders_

1,286 posts

43 months

Friday 20th March
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hidetheelephants said:
No also. I'll stick with what's been true since the first public speculations about practical fusion in the early 1950s, it's still 20 years away. hehe It will also remain a consistent generator of PhDs.
I heard 50 years.

Will be interesting to see what comes first, the end of the world as we know it or economically viable fusion.

_Rodders_

1,286 posts

43 months

Friday 20th March
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geeks said:
Spoil sports hehe

France have ITER as well which is funded by the world and its dog.

I reckon the race is now getting started
£20bn for 5 minutes of power, if it works as intended.

Evanivitch

25,909 posts

146 months

Friday 20th March
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732NM said:
No.
Also, no.

I've had interactions with a few fusion companies. A lot of them think their one piece of technology is key to unlocking fusion. I think it's great for materials and technology development which might have wider uses, but f'me it's an expensive way of doing it.

Simpo Two

91,439 posts

289 months

Friday 20th March
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geeks said:
https://interestingengineering.com/energy/fusion-p...

Microsoft have something that is apparently going to be ready in 2028 and Google have signed up to a provider as well.

So, are we finally going to start seeing something viable in the next 10 years?
Even if it was technically possible the greenies would kill it off by waving placards. So for that reason alone, no.

OIC

332 posts

17 months

Sunday 22nd March
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Stupid question of the day.

Why can't we just grab a bit of the Sun?

Sure you would need to keep it at moooooohasive pressure to maintain the reaction.

Plus it's a bit toasty to handle.

But I'm sure we could cobble together some sort of robotic machine to fly out there and back.

In traditional British fashion this could be done in some rich eccentric bloke's shed for 25p.

OU project maybe?

Is there any material that could take the heat and pressure near the Sun?

McDonalds apple tart maybe?

Just askin.

Ian974

3,168 posts

223 months

Wednesday 25th March
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It'd be great to have it running, but i suspect it's just very long term development, along with doing anything practical for it is extremely expensive.
Could be the case that once it's cracked properly then it could get significantly cheaper and quicker to build, but it's most likely still a long way off.
Even fission hasn't really seen the economies of scale you'd probably have expected by this point, though I guess the waste and higher risks with it have kept it from expanding as much as it could have.

Simpo Two

91,439 posts

289 months

Wednesday 25th March
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OIC said:
Stupid question of the day.

Why can't we just grab a bit of the Sun?

Sure you would need to keep it at moooooohasive pressure to maintain the reaction.

Plus it's a bit toasty to handle.

But I'm sure we could cobble together some sort of robotic machine to fly out there and back.

In traditional British fashion this could be done in some rich eccentric bloke's shed for 25p.

OU project maybe?

Is there any material that could take the heat and pressure near the Sun?
No need, send your expedition in at night!

EliseNick

272 posts

205 months

Yesterday (07:44)
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OIC said:
Stupid question of the day.

Why can't we just grab a bit of the Sun?

Sure you would need to keep it at moooooohasive pressure to maintain the reaction.

Plus it's a bit toasty to handle.

But I'm sure we could cobble together some sort of robotic machine to fly out there and back.

In traditional British fashion this could be done in some rich eccentric bloke's shed for 25p.

OU project maybe?

Is there any material that could take the heat and pressure near the Sun?

McDonalds apple tart maybe?

Just askin.
We would need a lot of the sun. It has the same power density (ie energy produced per cubic metre per second) as a typical compost heap. It's sometimes described as a 'lazy' fusion reactor.