Pea-souper = no fog lights. A little bit damp = fog lights!
Pea-souper = no fog lights. A little bit damp = fog lights!
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dxg

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10,133 posts

283 months

Saturday
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What's up with people?

This morning, it's a proper pea-souper. Haven't seen fog this bad in a good few years. Visibility less than 100 yards.

It's early, so not many cars around. Large gaps between means it's really time for the fog lights to come on.

Yet I seemed to be the only one. Many without even headlights - just looming out of the void at the last minute.

Yet, any decent rain and everyone turns on their fog lights. For the next three days.

Just don't understand.

Jo-say8k

226 posts

39 months

Saturday
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Rear fog lights will stay on until lunchtime though sun

KingNothing

3,306 posts

176 months

Saturday
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In my experience majority of the time people put their rear fog lights on when they're not needed at all, and more annoyingly, can't seem to work out, you can turn them off when the situation changes, rather than leaving them on till they get to wherever they're going, in short people are fking idiots.

andrewpandrew

2,445 posts

12 months

Saturday
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Quite a lot of the time where we are (edge of Saddleworth Moor) not only don’t you not get fog lights, you get no lights at all! Honestly don’t know what goes through people heads.

NDA

24,823 posts

248 months

Saturday
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On the M3 (in fog) I'd say around 40% of drivers have no lights on at all.

I suspect they're set to 'auto' (as mine are) and people don't think to check.

TomTheTyke

532 posts

170 months

Saturday
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KingNothing said:
In my experience majority of the time people put their rear fog lights on when they're not needed at all, and more annoyingly, can't seem to work out, you can turn them off when the situation changes, rather than leaving them on till they get to wherever they're going, in short people are fking idiots.
This is all that needs to be said. Can t say as I ve needed rear fogs more than a handful of times.

Davie

5,928 posts

238 months

Saturday
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See also tail gating, sitting in the middle lane, not indicating, messaging Sharon whilst circumnavigating a round about, oil below the minimum, nasty tyres with cords poking through, years of mould build up under the seats...

In short, for the vast majority, cars and the art of driving them is way way down their list of priorities and thus the standards associated with driving in the UK is pretty poor on the whole. Those who give driving their full focus day to day are likely a minority now.


TomTheTyke

532 posts

170 months

Saturday
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Indeed. I was recently told that a distant relative doesn’t service their car on the basis that it should just carry on working like a washing machine…

Master Bean

4,921 posts

143 months

Saturday
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NDA said:
On the M3 (in fog) I'd say around 40% of drivers have no lights on at all.

I suspect they're set to 'auto' (as mine are) and people don't think to check.
Why are they called automatic headlights if they don't turn on automatically? You don't have to change your 8 speed auto using the paddles when it rains or there's fog.

s6boy

1,786 posts

248 months

Saturday
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There can still be enough ambient light in foggy conditions not to trigger auto lights.

LightweightLouisDanvers

2,765 posts

66 months

Saturday
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Auto lights. Auto wipers.
Its bad enough having to drive the car without thinking about how to use its features....

Jo-say8k

226 posts

39 months

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Maxym

2,788 posts

259 months

Saturday
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Pea soupers are by definition green and no longer occur thanks to the phasing out of coal fires , industrial clean-up etc.

Pica-Pica

16,073 posts

107 months

Saturday
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Some observations:
Most cars have substantial rear lamp clusters, so rear fogs are rarely needed unless the fog is really heavy.
I have used front fog lights seriously about 3 times in 60 years of driving. Always without dipped headlights which would have caused glare-back - driving snow in particular is best using fog lights and sidelights.
I see that the Honda Civic does not have front fog lamps, probably a good idea.

njw1

2,666 posts

134 months

Saturday
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I haven't got any front fog lights.... frown

sixor8

7,879 posts

291 months

Saturday
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Cars with automatic lights often don't see fog as darkness, it isn't. Reliance on these systems means many drivers end up in fog with DRLs only at front, no lights at rear. rolleyes I often see it going over the Dales to Buxton. frown

Smint

2,858 posts

58 months

Saturday
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Wasn't anywhere near foggy enough in the east/west midlands journey for rear fog lights thismorning, only one car i saw with them on and quite frankly he was a damn nuisance.

As the poster above doubt i've used rear fogs this century apart from to check they're working, most of the time all they do is make life worse, instead of looking out for extra bright brake lights to illuminate somewhere in the mutiple vehicles ahead that early warning is lost due to multiple sets of extra bright rear lights being already illuminated.

I have driven in serious fog but thats going back 5 decades before rear fogs were a thing where 15mph was genuinely pushing it, when these lights first arrived many of those who had them switched the things on at the first sign of a damp road (look i've got a newer car than you with rear fogs), a wet motorway run became horrible because all you could see were dozens of dazzling red lights in which a set of brake lights would barely register.

craigjm

20,489 posts

223 months

Saturday
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Pea soupers and yards hehe feel like I ve walked into a nursing home

Do we still get the emissions required for greeny yellow fog or are we just talking a thick normal fog here?

As above auto lights not auto lighting due to ambient light and most drivers don t think these days.

Alex_225

7,386 posts

224 months

Saturday
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KingNothing said:
In my experience majority of the time people put their rear fog lights on when they're not needed at all, and more annoyingly, can't seem to work out, you can turn them off when the situation changes, rather than leaving them on till they get to wherever they're going, in short people are fking idiots.
That seems to sum it up nicely!

Fog lights on in light drizzle with a shed load of visibility but it's a bit gloomy. By contrast when it's genuinely foggy, plenty of muppets will be relying purely on their DRLs!

POIDH

2,909 posts

88 months

Saturday
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All these sensors, 'clever' tech, self-driving cars and AI and as far as I am aware, there is no car on sale today with as much cleverness as a human and a switch....