My Father's old toolbox - What are these?
My Father's old toolbox - What are these?
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Skyedriver

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My sister has passed my father's old toolboxes to me.
Most stuff I know but there's some items I'm at a loss as to what they are so here's a couple of pics.
He was an Mechanical Engineer and I suspect made quite a few bespoke tools over the years, some stuff engraved with his name and a date, often 1945.



A B C

D E F

G

A - From a lathe?
B - ? Made by my father
C- as A
D - as A
E - as C
F - there's a few of these, different sizes, was thinking not splitter but missing the cutter.
G - hr little silver end spins, look like they may either carry spare somethings in the handle or a battery.




H J K

L M N P Q

H - was thinking ball joint splitter but can't see how it works (threads are knackered)
J - some sort of cutting tools but double ended and two don't actually have a cutting end (ground off?).
K - I know these so just for curiosity, Whitworth thread gauges.
L - triangular file with no teeth. Burnishing tool?
M - Router bits?
N - Hardened steel, bullet shape
P - just a piece of S/S angle?
Q - Made by my father? has his name on them.

No prizes but I'd love to find out what some of these things are.
Thanks

gt40steve

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I have both of G.
Deburring tools, the end cap unscrews to store different shape or replacement ends.

LastPoster

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H is called a pin vice or something similar. They are for holding small pieces for engineering, but often made by students. I made one for O level Engineering an age ago. Your dad may have made that one!

Super Sonic

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Skyedriver said:
My sister has passed my father's old toolboxes to me.
Most stuff I know but there's some items I'm at a loss as to what they are so here's a couple of pics.
He was an Mechanical Engineer and I suspect made quite a few bespoke tools over the years, some stuff engraved with his name and a date, often 1945.



A B C

D E F

G

A - From a lathe?
B - ? Made by my father
C- as A
D - as A
E - as C
F - there's a few of these, different sizes, was thinking not splitter but missing the cutter.
G - hr little silver end spins, look like they may either carry spare somethings in the handle or a battery.




H J K

L M N P Q

H - was thinking ball joint splitter but can't see how it works (threads are knackered)
J - some sort of cutting tools but double ended and two don't actually have a cutting end (ground off?).
K - I know these so just for curiosity, Whitworth thread gauges.
L - triangular file with no teeth. Burnishing tool?
M - Router bits?
N - Hardened steel, bullet shape
P - just a piece of S/S angle?
Q - Made by my father? has his name on them.

No prizes but I'd love to find out what some of these things are.
Thanks
A,C, D &E are various squares, the screw bit holds a ruler with a groove down the middle, there is a peg on the end of the screw bit to clamp the ruler.
F is a 'dog' for 'turning between centres'. This is for precision turning where a chuck would not be accurately enough centred. The workpiece has a centre drilled in each end, and the lathe is set up with an accurate point (a 'centre') in the head and tailstock. There is a faceplate where the chuck would usually go, with a leg sticking out parallel to the workpiece, and the dog is bolted to the workpiece and pushes by the leg attached to the faceplate.
H is a toolmakers clamp, J are centre drills for starting an accurately centred hole and for making the centre holes for turning between centres, K is a set of thread gauges.
L is a 'scraper',used for, among other things, making a surface perfectly flat. This can be done using three flattish slabs, marker dye, the scraper and nothing else. It is an engineering fundamental.
M are tungsten carbide tool tips, and each shap has a specific holder it clamps into.
The two x shaped things are V blocks, used in pairs to hold a cylinder onto a flat surface. Your dad would have made these for an exam during his apprenticeship.
B I'm not sure. Do they have polished top and bottoms?
D is an engineer's protractor and should have a ruler, same as the squares.it can be set to any angle
J the square ended thing among the centre drills looks like a tap (for threading holes) that has been ground down to make a centre punch. The tap probably snapped!
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thebraketester

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M. Look like bits of carbide to braise on to a piece of steel to make a lathe tool.

thebraketester

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H. Shop made parallel clamp

thebraketester

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J Center drill, apart from the one that looks like a bullet, not sure on that one.

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thebraketester

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Q shop made V blocks

DS129

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L is called a 3 cornered scraper, edges should be sharp and used for de-burring.

thebraketester

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F. Lathe drive dog

C and E are centre finders for round bar. Missing the ruler part

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thebraketester

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A is a machinist square. Missing the ruler

thebraketester

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N. It could be a diamond pointed tool for truing up grinding wheels on a surface grinder.

thebraketester

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D angle gauge, also missing rule

Skyedriver

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Thanks for all the rapid replies. I have the ruler with the groove, I'll experiment with it and the items
So the little V blocks are for gripping a cylinder.
Yes A is definitely something he's made himself (and over loaded and bent the studding).

Skyedriver

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LastPoster said:
H is called a pin vice or something similar. They are for holding small pieces for engineering, but often made by students. I made one for O level Engineering an age ago. Your dad may have made that one!
There are various sized ones with his name engraved on them.

Skyedriver

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thebraketester said:
J Center drill, apart from the one that looks like a bullet, not sure on that one.

Edited by thebraketester on Saturday 21st March 20:32
Why would they have a cutting end at both ends rather than a square end? Just for interchangability?

Oh and there are two single hex sockets with a hexdrive rather than a square drive, assume they are for use with an Allen key.

Super Sonic

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Skyedriver said:
Thanks for all the rapid replies. I have the ruler with the groove, I'll experiment with it and the items
So the little V blocks are for gripping a cylinder.
Yes A is definitely something he's made himself (and over loaded and bent the studding).
I don't think them v blocks can be used for gripping a cylinder, as they haven't got the side grooves for the clamps. They can however be used on a surface plate with a dial guage for checking roundness and concentricity.

hidetheelephants

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thebraketester said:
N. It could be a diamond pointed tool for truing up grinding wheels on a surface grinder.
Possibly. It may also be a punch made to mark through existing holes for making a pair of casings for something.

Super Sonic

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Skyedriver said:
Why would they have a cutting end at both ends rather than a square end? Just for interchangability?

Oh and there are two single hex sockets with a hexdrive rather than a square drive, assume they are for use with an Allen key.
The centre drills are held in a regular drill chuck that goes in the lathe tailstock. I don't think the square ended one was a drill, I think it was a tap or possibly a reamer that snapped and was repurposed.

thebraketester

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Skyedriver said:
thebraketester said:
J Center drill, apart from the one that looks like a bullet, not sure on that one.

Edited by thebraketester on Saturday 21st March 20:32
Why would they have a cutting end at both ends rather than a square end? Just for interchangability?

Oh and there are two single hex sockets with a hexdrive rather than a square drive, assume they are for use with an Allen key.
Center drills usually are double ended. 2 bites of the cherry I guess. Sometimes they are different sizes on each end. Have a google and you'll see.