Graffiti in the Skatepark
Graffiti in the Skatepark
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toasty

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8,301 posts

245 months

Monday 23rd March
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Our council has built a skatepark for the kids in one of the local parks. It’s been there a few months and has attracted some graffiti.

Some of the locals are up in arms that the kids always have to ruin things.

My take is different. Graffiti and skate culture have been entwined for decades. If the council leave it as a blank canvas, it’s going to happen. Ok, it’ll happen anyway but if they got some students to decorate it with approved street art, it’d be less of n eyesore.

Thoughts?

bergclimber34

3,117 posts

18 months

Monday 23rd March
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There are guys at work interested in it to me it mainly looks scruffy, dirty and utterly depressing, like fly tipping almost.

Some is artistic, but the you delve in and realise it is often inked to gangs etc. Which is sad and desperate.

You ain't going to stop it as pathetic, weak minded cretins will always do it.

But, most it sucks, though sometimes some of it is pretty and thoughtful.

davek_964

10,931 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd March
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I'm not a particular fan of it, but like the OP - I'd kind of assume it's expected in a skate park.

Joe5y

1,631 posts

208 months

Monday 23rd March
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We have a local bridge system over the river Loddon, and it has become an accepted practice to graffiti all the walls. Some of the artwork is actually very good, but it really changes the feel of the area, and the spare paint inevitably ends up on walls it shouldn't.

Stuart70

4,136 posts

208 months

Monday 23rd March
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I lived in Milan during mid noughties. Lots of graffiti, no danger.
I was in Athens at the start of the month. Lots of graffiti, no danger.
It might not be your cup of arsenic, but it is not the downfall of society, particularly in a skate park.

It is not your environment and if you don’t like the aesthetic, then keep out grandad and let the kids get on with it (or something!)

smile


Spare tyre

12,269 posts

155 months

Monday 23rd March
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Where my folks live there is a wall along one side of the skatepark

It’s painted white every x months with the intention of it leading to no graffiti elsewhere, works relatively well

Jack.77

504 posts

69 months

Monday 23rd March
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If they want to clean it themselves I've found if it's on metal it's usually quite easy with celloius thinners on an old cloth . probably less than half an hour

boxedin

1,570 posts

151 months

Monday 23rd March
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toasty said:
Our council has built a skatepark for the kids in one of the local parks. It s been there a few months and has attracted some graffiti.

Some of the locals are up in arms that the kids always have to ruin things.

My take is different. Graffiti and skate culture have been entwined for decades. If the council leave it as a blank canvas, it s going to happen. Ok, it ll happen anyway but if they got some students to decorate it with approved street art, it d be less of n eyesore.

Thoughts?
'approved street art' - just.no.never.

complaints from the people who aren't the intended users, nor will ever use it. Ignore them. Graffiti that's good/liked will survive. Until that point let them throw up as many burners as required.

If you're curious about graffiti in general Style Wars is still worth a watch, a documentary on New York City graffiti.



shirt

25,187 posts

226 months

Monday 23rd March
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I don’t understand ‘tagging’.

But the council built a place where kids can do stuff in a contained area. I imagine there’s vaping and showing each other ‘stuff’ on the internet that you’d rather not want your kids to see.

But overall, it’s better to allow all this to happen in a safe space than have them doing it elsewhere imo.

POIDH

3,252 posts

90 months

Monday 23rd March
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Graffiti is part of adolescent play. It's ownership of space. And as adolescents they need to experiment, to find what they do or don't like. Art / creativity and ownership of space / finding ways of doing is as hardwired into adolescents as risk taking, different 'body clock' and all sorts of other behaviours that make adolescence such a powerful learning time.
It's thier space, leave them be.

toasty

Original Poster:

8,301 posts

245 months

Monday 23rd March
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I was thinking something like this that they did in a Maidstone park.



It’s not great street art but it’s better than bare concrete with the occasional tag or nob sprayed on it.

I’ve been a fan since the mid 80’s and Martha Cooper’s Subway Art book came out. My attempts were very poor but not entirely mindless vandalism. The stuff about these days can be incredible.

Landlubber

554 posts

74 months

Monday 23rd March
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So long as its not 'tags' for 'soldja' Turf and they manage to keep the obscenities to a minimum then it won't hurt.

Your Dad

2,203 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th March
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This is an oldie but still funny.

Graffiti artist vs. the council:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwK4NmQZe64

RizzoTheRat

28,466 posts

217 months

Tuesday 24th March
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boxedin said:
complaints from the people who aren't the intended users, nor will ever use it. Ignore them. Graffiti that's good/liked will survive. Until that point let them throw up as many burners as required.
Not always, there an area in Melbourne that's known for it's street art and has some really good stuff, but loads of it has been obliterated by people tagging over the top of it. I think that's pretty common in many places. tts like that Helch ahole who didn't give peas a chance frown

Sway

34,125 posts

219 months

Tuesday 24th March
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POIDH said:
Graffiti is part of adolescent play. It's ownership of space. And as adolescents they need to experiment, to find what they do or don't like. Art / creativity and ownership of space / finding ways of doing is as hardwired into adolescents as risk taking, different 'body clock' and all sorts of other behaviours that make adolescence such a powerful learning time.
It's thier space, leave them be.
That's a superb way of thinking about it - completely agree, and a skate park is almost ranked by the quality/quantity of graffiti - st skate parks designed by a 50+ accountant at the council will stay relatively clean other than very local kids doing st tagging.

As a youth, mates (siblings) had been given the use of an air raid shelter in the garden. Complete free for all from some simmer of love parents.

First few months, the walls were rapidly covered in st tags and 'bog cublicle' humour. After a year or two, that had progressed to every wall being covered in some really very cool art.

CountyLines

5,001 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th March
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Pretty much every motorway bridge in my neck of the woods has 10 FOOT scrawled all over it. No artistic merit, just a tt (Samuel Moore from the IoW) tagging.

entropy

6,441 posts

228 months

Tuesday 24th March
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shirt said:
I don t understand tagging .

But the council built a place where kids can do stuff in a contained area. I imagine there s vaping and showing each other stuff on the internet that you d rather not want your kids to see.

But overall, it s better to allow all this to happen in a safe space than have them doing it elsewhere imo.
Tagging is like having your signature displayed in public notoriety but using a pseudonym. A tag is the backbone of graffiti and to me is no different to calligraphy, art is subjective. Of course there's going to be juvenile stuff but kids are going to be kids.

Let them do tags and basic throw ups. Nothing racist or discriminatory. Let the kids govern the ramp themselves and if they do have issues the adults should step in when needed. Just my opinion.

the-norseman

15,332 posts

196 months

Tuesday 24th March
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I have no problem with graffiti, especially when its well done. I actually visited the graffiti tunnel in London a few months ago, I was going somewhere locally and stumbled upon it, so watched a few artists doing there stuff.

Locally we have a tagger who sprays Silent Monkey or S.Monkey everywhere which is actually an anagram for the city we live in.

JustGREENI

603 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th March
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Our local skatepark had a specific wall for graffiti.
Graffiti and skateboarding is 'street culture', I see no issue.


Don1

16,609 posts

233 months

Tuesday 24th March
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Skating and graffiti are intertwined. No issues at all.

Unless this happens: