Has the current administration changed your view of the US?
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Avoiding overlap of the Trump thread, how have the actions of the current US administration affected your attitude towards all things American?
- Do you still want to take a holiday there?
- Do you resist travelling to the US for business?
- Do you avoid buying American brands or investing in the US?
- Do you view American TV/music/culture differently?
- Do you view your American friends/acquaintances differently?
- Have current events made you look more favourably at China, Europe or other allies?
In an odd way, my opinion of the USA hasn't altered over the last 30 years, I've always been vaguely disappointed by them. The only difference now is that I see Trump almost as a separate entity to the USA, with the country itself being dragged along for the duration with little choice.
I wouldn't set foot in the country while him and the current lunatic fringe are in charge. Disclose your social media accounts and face a grilling for any anti-Trump content just to visit? No thanks. That, and the widespread outlawing of abortion means I'm not going back any time soon.
The other factor is that they were voted in by millions and millions of Americans, who are presumably fine and happy with the way it's gone. So it's not just the leadership, I've got no desire to speak to these sorts of people or give them any of my money.
I have a bunch of non-Trumpian American friends who are making plans to leave at the moment. Including a mum of three girls who lives in Texas and, if one of her daughters accidentally got pregnant, would have to drive her 6 hours over the border into Colorado to have an abortion.
The other factor is that they were voted in by millions and millions of Americans, who are presumably fine and happy with the way it's gone. So it's not just the leadership, I've got no desire to speak to these sorts of people or give them any of my money.
I have a bunch of non-Trumpian American friends who are making plans to leave at the moment. Including a mum of three girls who lives in Texas and, if one of her daughters accidentally got pregnant, would have to drive her 6 hours over the border into Colorado to have an abortion.
Going to the USA on holiday again this year.
Still heavily invested in the USA
Don't view the country or the people any differently.
The current administration are a bunch of clowns. No different to those running the UK. I'm not going to lose any sleep over either. I'll crack on with my life, use my vote accordingly, and generally ignore the rest of it.
As for the Americans themselves. Yes they voted Trump. In very similar circumstances that Labour got voted in here - i.e. one look at the alternatives tell you everything. To say all those voters are fine with things going on now is naive. There will be plenty that are, and just as many who aren't (much the same as labour voters here)
Still heavily invested in the USA
Don't view the country or the people any differently.
The current administration are a bunch of clowns. No different to those running the UK. I'm not going to lose any sleep over either. I'll crack on with my life, use my vote accordingly, and generally ignore the rest of it.
As for the Americans themselves. Yes they voted Trump. In very similar circumstances that Labour got voted in here - i.e. one look at the alternatives tell you everything. To say all those voters are fine with things going on now is naive. There will be plenty that are, and just as many who aren't (much the same as labour voters here)
Pitre said:
Avoiding overlap of the Trump thread, how have the actions of the current US administration affected your attitude towards all things American?
No- Do you still want to take a holiday there?
- Do you resist travelling to the US for business?
- Do you avoid buying American brands or investing in the US?
- Do you view American TV/music/culture differently?
- Do you view your American friends/acquaintances differently?
- Have current events made you look more favourably at China, Europe or other allies?
N/A
No
No/No/Yes
Yes
Yes
+ Do you still want to take a holiday there?
+ Do you resist travelling to the US for business?
+ Do you avoid buying American brands or investing in the US?
+ Do you view American TV/music/culture differently?
+ Do you view your American friends/acquaintances differently?
No different at all. This is a transient period, the people are the same as they ever were.
+ Have current events made you look more favourably at China, Europe or other allies?
I would have, but Ukraine has made me realize that China, Russia are ****ing dangerous and whatever we think of America they have been an incredible protector and free trade and freedom is almost as essential to them as it is to us. So I feel Russia has forced me to pick a side in Global Politics and the side I'm picking is America and it's not even close.
Opinion hasn't really changed; I can separate the actions of the current administration from the American population. Was looking at the pacific north-west as a possible holiday later this year, but the administrations current FAFO of TSA shows how reckless they are happy to be messing with everyone's travel, and I can't be bothered with any extra hassle so looking at the great white north instead.
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ked up. Having Trump in charge is just helping people to see it a bit more now IMO