Sciatica
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RT/M

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287 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th April
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I have had Sciatica and for well over a month now. I can cope alright during the day time, however bedtime is a different matter, i wake up around 3-4 am every morning in pain (it is not the mattress) so i end up on my reclining chair in the living room for some relief of the pain. I have been to the doctors who have given me pain killers , which to me are not effective at all. So i an thinking about purchasing s UV lamp for pain relief, has anyone tried this if so are they effective

nickfrog

24,400 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th April
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Aren't there exercises that might help? I occasionally get it after a hard tennis match or an intense practice session but it seems to go within 48h.

Maybe a YT search or even ChatGTP ?

paw270

59 posts

34 months

Thursday 9th April
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You really need to try and find the cause of the sciatica. I would recommend going to see a physiotherapist to start with.

Hopefully they can find the cause and advise on the correct exercises.

Animal

5,648 posts

292 months

Thursday 9th April
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Sciatica is a symptom of something else so painkillers might (or might not) give some relief but they won't cure.

As above, see a physio who would hopefully be able to find the cause and suggest treatment.

ETA: I had a mild, brief bout of this last yr and it came from my piriformis. A couple of weeks of frequent stretching and I'm all better.

Edited by Animal on Thursday 9th April 20:22

Bill

57,493 posts

279 months

Thursday 9th April
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^^ This, and a UV lamp won't help pain.

Magooagain

12,744 posts

194 months

Saturday
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Regular stretching exercising.

I do mine before I get out of bed everyday.
They are simple knee to chest for around 30 seconds for each knee and also full laying down stretch
Then both knees together to my chest for 30 seconds or so.
Works for me.

Doofus

33,296 posts

197 months

Saturday
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Stretches and a sciatica pillow for between your legs in bed.

ConnectionError

2,252 posts

93 months

Saturday
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When I had sciatica a few years ago my doctor basis that pain killers etc won’t work in nerve pain

And, you need to exercise and do stretches etc.

Then lose weight and get fitter.


GiantEnemyCrab

7,959 posts

227 months

Breaststroke swimming (with the frog kicking).- slow wide and deep kicking motion.

rodericb

8,563 posts

150 months

RT/M said:
I have had Sciatica and for well over a month now. I can cope alright during the day time, however bedtime is a different matter, i wake up around 3-4 am every morning in pain (it is not the mattress) so i end up on my reclining chair in the living room for some relief of the pain. I have been to the doctors who have given me pain killers , which to me are not effective at all. So i an thinking about purchasing s UV lamp for pain relief, has anyone tried this if so are they effective
That "remedy" and the others proposed in the replies above may not make a lick of difference and may exacerbate whatever is causing the "sciatica". You've got pain in your back which may be impingement of the sciatic nerve and this can be by many cause: Herniated disc, displaced vertebrae, spinal stenosis, tumour/cancer......The threatment of the cause might be anything from waiting for inflamattion to settle and then do some exercies to strengthen your "core" muscles through to surgery. An actual physiotherapist might diagnose it if the cause fits within their field of expertise. Otherwise you'll probably need some scans to see what's going on exactly. Do that sooner rather than later so you're not just masking it all with a painkiller that "works" (which has an addiction risk) or engaging on useless physical remedies in case the cause is something rather more serious....

Bill

57,493 posts

279 months

rodericb said:
That "remedy" and the others proposed in the replies above may not make a lick of difference and may exacerbate whatever is causing the "sciatica". You've got pain in your back which may be impingement of the sciatic nerve and this can be by many cause: Herniated disc, displaced vertebrae, spinal stenosis, tumour/cancer......The threatment of the cause might be anything from waiting for inflamattion to settle and then do some exercies to strengthen your "core" muscles through to surgery. An actual physiotherapist might diagnose it if the cause fits within their field of expertise.
Yes. Ish.

rodericb said:
Otherwise you'll probably need some scans to see what's going on exactly. Do that sooner rather than later so you're not just masking it all with a painkiller that "works" (which has an addiction risk) or engaging on useless physical remedies in case the cause is something rather more serious....
No. The vast majority of back pain and sciatica will settle over 8-12 weeks. The painkillers allow you to move, and movement helps so use them. The likelihood of tumour in a 4 week history of sciatica is so vanishingly small you can forget it. (Obviously in an assessment I'd consider it...)

It is worth being aware of the signs of cauda equina because although it's rare, it is an emergency and needs an urgent scan via A&E.

Slow.Patrol

4,594 posts

38 months

Doofus said:
Stretches and a sciatica pillow for between your legs in bed.
Definitely need a pillow between your legs if you are a side sleeper. Sleep on the non affected side.

Swimming is good and exercises.

https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/exercises-sc...


dobly

1,563 posts

183 months

Do you sit at a desk 9-5? If so, a standing desk should sort you out.

phil1979

3,661 posts

239 months

Yesterday (09:35)
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Bill said:
It is worth being aware of the signs of cauda equina because although it's rare, it is an emergency and needs an urgent scan via A&E.
Being someone who has had 2 emergency ops in the last 2 years for cauda equina, I can assure you it's no fun, but the relief felt immediately after the operation was absolutely out of this world. If I could bottle that 'high', i'd be a billionaire.

rodericb

8,563 posts

150 months

Yesterday (11:22)
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Bill said:
No. The vast majority of back pain and sciatica will settle over 8-12 weeks. The painkillers allow you to move, and movement helps so use them. The likelihood of tumour in a 4 week history of sciatica is so vanishingly small you can forget it. (Obviously in an assessment I'd consider it...)

It is worth being aware of the signs of cauda equina because although it's rare, it is an emergency and needs an urgent scan via A&E.
The 8-12 weeks thing is great if you are in the vast majority. A proper assessment will determine whether you're in the vast majority or not and, above all else, should result in a treatment plan either way. It's when you're not in the vast majority that leaving it keeps you debilitated, may make what you've got worse or could be an indication of something more serious. If the OP was in their twenties, wait it out. If they're older, are missing work, eating potent pain killers (not that the OP is) or whatever there's a bit more gravity to the situation, in my opinion. This type of thing should be easily done in even a half-functional health system.

I've been down the road of the person who is not in the majority - pars defects on L5 and L6 - which needed to be known so it could be treated correctly. I have a mate who fell onto the ground at literally walking pace, somehow "chipped a bone" in his spine, went off work due to injury and spent the next twenty years on ever increasingly powerful pain killers of varying levels of hillbilliness and legality. So it can be pretty rough.


Edited by rodericb on Monday 13th April 11:36

Bill

57,493 posts

279 months

Yesterday (16:40)
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Assessment and a steer from a professional is one thing, but only a tiny number need a scan because it usually doesn't change the management particularly early on and isn't a good predictor of outcome. Something like 30% of people with no pain have degenerative changes, disc bulges etc on MRI. And a similar proportion with pain have no signs on MRI.

People want to "know what's going on" but even with a scan it's often hard to be certain.

trails

6,596 posts

173 months

Yesterday (16:46)
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My sciatica symptoms were caused by the piriformis muscle. A decent sports physio will be able to help.

If that is the root cause then be prepared for some pretty deep massages which are uncomfortable but transformative. Good luck.

Doesitdrive

851 posts

5 months

Yesterday (16:50)
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Animal said:
Sciatica is a symptom of something else so painkillers might (or might not) give some relief but they won't cure.

As above, see a physio who would hopefully be able to find the cause and suggest treatment.

ETA: I had a mild, brief bout of this last yr and it came from my piriformis. A couple of weeks of frequent stretching and I'm all better.

Edited by Animal on Thursday 9th April 20:22
This is true, stretching does help cure it, but you need to find the cause.

Mine was damaged vertebrae, not much can be done, but I got lucky with a spinal jab several years ago at a private hospital.

theboss

7,404 posts

243 months

Yesterday (17:08)
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Bill said:
Assessment and a steer from a professional is one thing, but only a tiny number need a scan because it usually doesn't change the management particularly early on and isn't a good predictor of outcome. Something like 30% of people with no pain have degenerative changes, disc bulges etc on MRI. And a similar proportion with pain have no signs on MRI.

People want to "know what's going on" but even with a scan it's often hard to be certain.
And the ones who do need a scan (urgently) often don’t get it.

I wish I had made enquiries as to “what was going on” when I had sciatica and low back pain because a few months later I ended up with a massive disc herniation, sent home from A&E then swiftly ended up permanently fked with CES.

The bar for MRI is far too high and they don’t seem to learn.

Purosangue

2,055 posts

37 months

Yesterday (17:17)
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In Egypt two years ago was doing up our villa to sell ,was on my own ,

woke up one morning and was in serious pain , lower back shooting down one leg , I had to lie on the cold tiled floor to get any relief , was like that for aw week .

Eventually i called a friend , who took me to a local quack ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, they gave me a bottle of pills and a large bottle of liquid . take a pill and a 10ml dose of liqid he said ....BUT NO MORE than that.

I hobbled back took the medicine then laid in the pool ,,,,,, then felt really dizzy .. managed to get out and collapsed on the lounge floor . I was out for nearly 24hrs . the pain had been replaced by euphoric feeling of weightlessness , but i had no will to get up /

WTF

It turned out the tablets were a derivative of Xylazine, ( horse tranquilizers and the liquid was an oramorph

i stopped taking the tablets but continued with the oramorph .... had no pain after that

after 2 weeks it fixed itself