Irish fuel protests

[colin79666]

This seems to be getting more coverage in the UK press now. What are the chances of it spreading over the Irish sea?

I saw a clip of a gentleman complaining about a litre of diesel being 2.20 EUR. That s less than I m seeing around these parts yet there doesn t seem to be the same outrage at the British government s fuel tax.

[Deep Thought]

colin79666 said:

This seems to be getting more coverage in the UK press now. What are the chances of it spreading over the Irish sea?

I saw a clip of a gentleman complaining about a litre of diesel being 2.20 EUR. That s less than I m seeing around these parts yet there doesn t seem to be the same outrage at the British government s fuel tax.

Protests now scheduled here in the North of Ireland.



Which will be used as an excuse to riot.

[bloomen]

colin79666 said:

That s less than I m seeing around these parts yet there doesn t seem to be the same outrage at the British government s fuel tax.

Unlike the UK, Ireland has already had a 250 million Euro duty reduction a couple of weeks ago. That was eaten rather rapidly for obvious reasons.

If protestors want to make an actual difference, drive your tractor slowly around Tehran or Washington. This all seems a bit dim and destructive.

[Earthdweller]

Ireland is a bit of a tinder box, these protests are an outlet for a lot of anti- Gov grievance and the Gov seems intent on winding up the protestors which isn't helping

The army has now been sent in to the refinery in Cork and the cops are busily pepper spraying all and sundry down there

As I said there's a lot of people very angry with the Gov and what's going on, I don't see it ending quickly or well

[skyebear]

Don't farmers get fuel duty-free anyway?

I can understand hauliers being annoyed but even if the government cut duty there's no evidence the fuel companies would pass on the cut. They didn't back in 2022 when UK Gov cut it by 5p.

[hondajack85]

outside influence because they dont tow the line about certain things

[glazbagun]

colin79666 said:

This seems to be getting more coverage in the UK press now. What are the chances of it spreading over the Irish sea?

I saw a clip of a gentleman complaining about a litre of diesel being 2.20 EUR. That s less than I m seeing around these parts yet there doesn t seem to be the same outrage at the British government s fuel tax.

From what I've seen the guy leading it is a controversial dhead with a string of animal welfare convictions and a huge outstanding tax bill so not quite a grassroots movement sticking it to the Iranians/Americans/Irish.

Further the kind of disruption they're seeing now is the sort we saw in the 90/00's with depot blockades, etc. The law in the UK is thus much tighter to prevent this sort of thing. The most recent tweak was to prevent Just Stop Oil and was roundly applauded by the sort of right wing tax activist who would presumably be behind shutting down motorways now.

Everyone is aware the cause of the fuel jump is foreign. I just can't see it catching the imagination here. The government wouldn't be as wrongfooted as the Irish in any case.

[JagLover]

Earthdweller said:

Ireland is a bit of a tinder box, these protests are an outlet for a lot of anti- Gov grievance and the Gov seems intent on winding up the protestors which isn't helping

The army has now been sent in to the refinery in Cork and the cops are busily pepper spraying all and sundry down there

As I said there's a lot of people very angry with the Gov and what's going on, I don't see it ending quickly or well

I suspect this is a large part of it. Same as the yellow jersey protests in France. Those in charge are not really disguising their contempt anymore.

[Earthdweller]

JagLover said:

I suspect this is a large part of it. Same as the yellow jersey protests in France. Those in charge are not really disguising their contempt anymore.

Yes I think so

Ireland has gone from one of the most homogenous society's in Europe to one with huge amounts of legal immigration as well as illegal migration and the quota of EU migrants being allocated to IRL due to its high GDP within a very short period and an associated increase in serious crime, very shocking to a pop used to a low crime high trust society, particularly with the IPAS centres and a deliberate policy of placing asylum seekers in small rural communities

Add to that a huge housing crisis, healthcare provision, high cost of living and taxation and a Gov that seems to be sticking two fingers up at the electorate who despite the high GDP which is mainly because of huge corporates are really struggling financially

The recent Presidential election and the spoil your vote campaign would highlight serious dissatisfaction with the ruling classes

So, yes I think it's symptomatic of a lot of issues not just fuel prices

Edited by Earthdweller on Saturday 11th April 18:02

[PurplePenguin]

Deep Thought said:

colin79666 said:

This seems to be getting more coverage in the UK press now. What are the chances of it spreading over the Irish sea?

I saw a clip of a gentleman complaining about a litre of diesel being 2.20 EUR. That s less than I m seeing around these parts yet there doesn t seem to be the same outrage at the British government s fuel tax.

Protests now scheduled here in the North of Ireland.



Which will be used as an excuse to riot.

This is a good reason to riot - thieving government bds

[zarjaz1991]

PurplePenguin said:

This is a good reason to riot - thieving government bds

There's never a good reason to riot.

[Mikebentley]

zarjaz1991 said:

PurplePenguin said:

This is a good reason to riot - thieving government bds

There's never a good reason to riot.

Rioting is never a good thing. Are they too thick to see the real world issues causing fuel price rises?

[PurplePenguin]

Mikebentley said:

zarjaz1991 said:

PurplePenguin said:

This is a good reason to riot - thieving government bds

There's never a good reason to riot.

Rioting is never a good thing. Are they too thick to see the real world issues causing fuel price rises?

And government do nothing except rake in more duty and vat as a result - also a “real world issue”

[Mikebentley]

PurplePenguin said:

Mikebentley said:

zarjaz1991 said:

PurplePenguin said:

This is a good reason to riot - thieving government bds

There's never a good reason to riot.

Rioting is never a good thing. Are they too thick to see the real world issues causing fuel price rises?

And government do nothing except rake in more duty and vat as a result - also a real world issue

And Government still need to balance the books and provide social care etc - also a real world issue.
My only caveat would be I would agree to them fixing their share of each litre at a maximum which would be the average cost per litre immediately prior to the attacks on Iran.

[PurplePenguin]

Mikebentley said:

PurplePenguin said:

Mikebentley said:

zarjaz1991 said:

PurplePenguin said:

This is a good reason to riot - thieving government bds

There's never a good reason to riot.

Rioting is never a good thing. Are they too thick to see the real world issues causing fuel price rises?

And government do nothing except rake in more duty and vat as a result - also a real world issue

And Government still need to balance the books and provide social care etc - also a real world issue.
My only caveat would be I would agree to them fixing their share of each litre at a maximum which would be the average cost per litre immediately prior to the attacks on Iran.

Real world issue - excessive unsustainable social care. The books have never been balanced.

[Mikebentley]

PurplePenguin said:

Mikebentley said:

PurplePenguin said:

Mikebentley said:

zarjaz1991 said:

PurplePenguin said:

This is a good reason to riot - thieving government bds

There's never a good reason to riot.

Rioting is never a good thing. Are they too thick to see the real world issues causing fuel price rises?

And government do nothing except rake in more duty and vat as a result - also a real world issue

And Government still need to balance the books and provide social care etc - also a real world issue.
My only caveat would be I would agree to them fixing their share of each litre at a maximum which would be the average cost per litre immediately prior to the attacks on Iran.

Real world issue - excessive unsustainable social care. The books have never been balanced.

You best get out there and riot then if you think it’s justified I’m not going to try and talk you out of your beliefs. I still think it’s the last resort of the feckless and feeble minded. Peaceful protests get a thumbs up but rioting is not on it’s just stupid. Wear a Purple Penguin suit so we all know who you are.

[Ridgemont]

ROI is a tinderkeg right now.

the root cause is a political class that is paying absolutely no attention to how a lot (not a majority) feel.

It s all very well some of the posters stating that riots are last resort etc, but many of the protesters feel that the existing political structure is deliberately obviating them.

The likelihood is that there will be a serious nativist Irish party that starts getting traction if only because Foil, Gael and Fein are all singing from the same hymn sheet. An Irish Reform if you will.

And yet the establishment plunged forward. Mad.

[732NM]

Ireland are getting a dose of what it means to be in the EU as a contributor with a decent relative GDP and zero control of their EU migration policy.

They don't like it.

[rodericb]

bloomen said:

colin79666 said:

That s less than I m seeing around these parts yet there doesn t seem to be the same outrage at the British government s fuel tax.

Unlike the UK, Ireland has already had a 250 million Euro duty reduction a couple of weeks ago. That was eaten rather rapidly for obvious reasons.

If protestors want to make an actual difference, drive your tractor slowly around Tehran or Washington. This all seems a bit dim and destructive.

Quick lads, to the teleporter - we're off to Tehran or Washington!!!11

[hidetheelephants]

Deep Thought said:

colin79666 said:

This seems to be getting more coverage in the UK press now. What are the chances of it spreading over the Irish sea?

I saw a clip of a gentleman complaining about a litre of diesel being 2.20 EUR. That s less than I m seeing around these parts yet there doesn t seem to be the same outrage at the British government s fuel tax.

Protests now scheduled here in the North of Ireland.



Which will be used as an excuse to riot.

A little on the nose to have the poster for the ruck being illustrated as a fiery apocalypse.