Hungary - Orban defeated
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ConnectionError

Original Poster:

2,252 posts

93 months

Is this good news?


caziques

2,812 posts

192 months


Yes

Hippea

3,357 posts

93 months

Has Trump gone on a tirade about the election being rigged yet?

21TonyK

13,005 posts

233 months

Hippea said:
Has Trump gone on a tirade about the election being rigged yet?
He will do

MC Bodge

28,009 posts

199 months

ConnectionError said:
Is this good news?
I would say so

Hill92

5,260 posts

214 months

Not just Orban defeated. Tisza currently projected to win 137 seats out of 199 giving them the critical supermajority required to remove Orban's cronies from office and make other constitutional changes to restore the rule of law.

https://vtr.valasztas.hu/ogy2026

MC Bodge

28,009 posts

199 months

Hill92 said:
Not just Orban defeated. Tisza currently projected to win 137 seats out of 199 giving them the critical supermajority required to remove Orban's cronies from office and make other constitutional changes to restore the rule of law.
Let us hope that they do, rather than just changing the personnel and continuing as before.

Simbu

1,879 posts

198 months

ConnectionError said:
Is this good news?
Unequivocally so, at least for EU unity, Ukraine and European security. All of which are also in UK interests.

It looks like Magyar might get a supermajority which allows him to unwind the constitutional fkery that Orban and his cronies put in place. Good news domestically too.

S600BSB

7,588 posts

130 months

Fingers crossed - that would be such a good result.

durbster

11,824 posts

246 months

In geopolitical terms, very good news for Europe. A much needed statement for Trump and Putin that democracy will decide who wins elections in Europe, not them.

It's also quite funny that the US Government was so desperate to help Putin that they sent the Vice President to try and influence the Hungarian election, but JD Vance is so grotesque and unlikeable that it seems to have swung voters the other way. biggrin

BrettMRC

5,616 posts

184 months

Genuinely didn't expect him to concede.

Wheel Turned Out

2,190 posts

62 months

16 years, bloody hell. Good news but that's a deeply unfortunate amount of time to have suffered that fool.

bloomen

9,513 posts

183 months

Wheel Turned Out said:
16 years, bloody hell. Good news but that's a deeply unfortunate amount of time to have suffered that fool.
Old communists are the lifeblood of politicians like this.

Once they're all dead or dribbling, it's full Wakanda ahoy.

BikeBikeBIke

13,611 posts

139 months

Simbu said:
Unequivocally so, at least for EU unity, Ukraine and European security. All of which are also in UK interests.

It looks like Magyar might get a supermajority which allows him to unwind the constitutional fkery that Orban and his cronies put in place. Good news domestically too.
Some welcome good news.

p1stonhead

29,219 posts

191 months

Vance being sent there for Orban should not be overlooked. The US are not for the good side here.

Genuine Barn Find

5,866 posts

239 months

BrettMRC said:
Genuinely didn't expect him to concede.
With his ‘mates’ otherwise engaged, he probably realised he was going to do a Ceaușescu if he didn’t….

BikeBikeBIke

13,611 posts

139 months

durbster said:
In geopolitical terms, very good news for Europe. A much needed statement for Trump and Putin that democracy will decide who wins elections in Europe, not them.

It's also quite funny that the US Government was so desperate to help Putin that they sent the Vice President to try and influence the Hungarian election, but JD Vance is so grotesque and unlikeable that it seems to have swung voters the other way. biggrin
It is proper weird. Vance is fully enthusiastic about Europe standing on our own two feet, then he supports Orban who was a an ongoing impediment to that.

Kawasicki

14,169 posts

259 months

BrettMRC said:
Genuinely didn't expect him to concede.
It was common knowledge that he wouldn’t. He was anti democratic.

Kwackersaki

1,653 posts

252 months

Yes, good news. Bound to piss Putin off along with the Orange turd and his lap dog Vance who had a wasted journey.

Derek Smith

48,930 posts

272 months

Orban going is great. His replacement would seem to be a bit of a mixed bag. A populist, one with a platform of destroying corruption. We've heard similar before, and the norm is 'the more it changes . . . ' Still, there seems to be a good chance it will be better for Hungarians.

He's sort of pro-European and slightly less pro-EU. Positives there, but Russia has a significant fanbase in Hungary, going back to Iron Curtain days. There is, I'm told, a fair bit of anti-EU, pro-Russia graffiti around the country, particularly the east, and that's likely to be a problem for him. Is the war in Ukraine a factor in the vote? Many supporters of Russia turning?

Orban conceding before the final bit of counting. Didn't see that coming. Will he go without some attempt at holding onto power?

Best of luck to Magyar if he is who he purports to be. He'll need it.