All Change on the National Lottery
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2 draws now on a Wednesday and Saturday; and reduced prizes.....hmmm....
2 draws now on a Wednesday and Saturday; and reduced prizes.....hmmm....
snuffy said:
I'm an old git and have been doing the lottery since it first started. This is actually better than back then and before they doubled the price of a ticket.The first ever draw cost £1 and the prizes for 3 balls and up were £10, £32, £528, £46,349 then the jackpot.
Now they have turned it into 2 draws per ticket the £1 cost per draw is now fixed at £10, £50, £1,000, £1,000,000 then the jackpot. This is better than historically except for maybe the jackpot which is now spread across 2 draws. So unless you get all 6 numbers this is actually a better average return than it has been before. More smaller prizes at maybe the expense of the jackpot.
AndrewT1275 said:
snuffy said:
I'm an old git and have been doing the lottery since it first started. This is actually better than back then and before they doubled the price of a ticket.The first ever draw cost £1 and the prizes for 3 balls and up were £10, £32, £528, £46,349 then the jackpot.
Now they have turned it into 2 draws per ticket the £1 cost per draw is now fixed at £10, £50, £1,000, £1,000,000 then the jackpot. This is better than historically except for maybe the jackpot which is now spread across 2 draws. So unless you get all 6 numbers this is actually a better average return than it has been before. More smaller prizes at maybe the expense of the jackpot.
AndrewT1275 said:
I'm an old git and have been doing the lottery since it first started. This is actually better than back then and before they doubled the price of a ticket.
The first ever draw cost £1 and the prizes for 3 balls and up were £10, £32, £528, £46,349 then the jackpot.
Now they have turned it into 2 draws per ticket the £1 cost per draw is now fixed at £10, £50, £1,000, £1,000,000 then the jackpot. This is better than historically except for maybe the jackpot which is now spread across 2 draws. So unless you get all 6 numbers this is actually a better average return than it has been before. More smaller prizes at maybe the expense of the jackpot.
I too am an old git and have done from day 1.The first ever draw cost £1 and the prizes for 3 balls and up were £10, £32, £528, £46,349 then the jackpot.
Now they have turned it into 2 draws per ticket the £1 cost per draw is now fixed at £10, £50, £1,000, £1,000,000 then the jackpot. This is better than historically except for maybe the jackpot which is now spread across 2 draws. So unless you get all 6 numbers this is actually a better average return than it has been before. More smaller prizes at maybe the expense of the jackpot.
You are right; when it started it was £10 for 3, and then all the others were variable depending on the number of winners. And the 4 or 5 and 5+1 where often very poor, certainly less than they are now fixed at (£140 and so on).
So I suppose what they have done is almost go back to the way it was right when it started (certainly for £10 for 3), when it was £1 a go, but so as not to got back to £1 a go, they have come up with the idea of having two draws for £2 instead of one draw for £1.
I haven't played the NL for a very long time. I do the Euromillions (including of course PH)
the problem I have with both of these is the prize levels, mainly the NL because of my experience a good couple of decades ago:
on some regular lines I got 4+2 so, six of the seven numbers! . wow good eh? no, not really it was about 1800 quid. the jackpot was won by someone who got all seven which at the time was around 32 million.
that's a hell of a prize disparity, the same as it looks today. look at the last Fridays draw prize. main 5 plus 1 bonus gives 182K but "my" prize for 4+2 would have been 940 quid yet we both had six balls.
my argument (mainly because of this experience) is the jackpot should be less and other prizes more useful..my six out of seven balls for 1800 quid is very poor.
I also think more people would play if the other prize levels were more useful, I include Euromillions in that . some might say but the jackpot is "only" 10 million, yeah but your chances of winning 30K or 150K are considerably higher than they were
blah blah, moan, sulk, etc.,
Edited by languagetimothy on Tuesday 14th April 15:18
languagetimothy said:
that's a hell of a prize disparity, the same as it looks today. look at the last Fridays draw prize. main 5 plus 1 bonus gives 182K but "my" prize for 4+2 would have been 940 quid yet we both had six balls.
2 or 3 weeks ago, my missus got 4+1 on the EM and won £95. 5+1 was £135k.And I once had 4 on the EM and got about £75, but I'm sure the percentages have been changed, so now you need 4+1 to pay the same as just getting 4.
It's really all or nothing as you say. At least on the NL, for 5 plus the bonus is £1m, whereas before it was nowhere near that, maybe in high tens of thousands. So that is better.
I did get £30 this Saturday !
But I used to think a lucky dip for 2 number was an insult, it's not worth having, it's like they are taking the piss. But now, a quid for 2? That really is an insult - half a ticket (indeed, it's half a lucky dip).
I am trying to wrap my head around this. Does my ticket get 2 chances in any case or only if I have a minimum of 1 balls matched?
If first option, then they basically reduced price of playing without reducing price of playing. This might be in anticipation of the power ball starting soon. Also would mean thunderball might be binned. New pyramid of sorts
If first option, then they basically reduced price of playing without reducing price of playing. This might be in anticipation of the power ball starting soon. Also would mean thunderball might be binned. New pyramid of sorts
Blue_star said:
I am trying to wrap my head around this. Does my ticket get 2 chances in any case or only if I have a minimum of 1 balls matched?
If first option, then they basically reduced price of playing without reducing price of playing. This might be in anticipation of the power ball starting soon. Also would mean thunderball might be binned. New pyramid of sorts
Your 6 numbers get entered into 2 draws on the same night. You only pick 1 set of 6, and they get used in both draws. They are independent draws, with the prizes the same for each draw. They are not connected. Apart from the Jackpot figure.If first option, then they basically reduced price of playing without reducing price of playing. This might be in anticipation of the power ball starting soon. Also would mean thunderball might be binned. New pyramid of sorts
Think of it like this: It's £1 per entry, but it's £1 in draw one, and £1 in draw two, and you must enter both draws, so it's still £2.
BunkMoreland said:
BOLD
That's the problem though.
You sit and watch as your 6 numbers roll out of the machine. Congrats You've just won £10M. Pop the Champers!
But wait.
Lets do a second draw with another machine and another set of numbers. And wouldn't you know it. Another player has matched the 2nd draws 6 numbers. So now you've got to share the £10M you had for all of 5 mins!
Is the jackpot split half and half per draw, or is it an equal split between combined winners of both draws?That's the problem though.
You sit and watch as your 6 numbers roll out of the machine. Congrats You've just won £10M. Pop the Champers!
But wait.
Lets do a second draw with another machine and another set of numbers. And wouldn't you know it. Another player has matched the 2nd draws 6 numbers. So now you've got to share the £10M you had for all of 5 mins!
What I mean is, if you're the only winner of draw 1, but then five people win draw 2, do you get half a jackpot for your draw and the others split their half five ways, or do you all share the whole jackpot split six equal ways?
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