Gaming the asylum system
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Kawasicki

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14,228 posts

260 months

Wednesday 15th April
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This is hard to believe, that people would be dishonest and that legal firms and organisations would support them for money!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c937wldkkw8o


PurplePenguin

3,997 posts

58 months

Wednesday 15th April
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Kawasicki said:
This is hard to believe, that people would be dishonest and that legal firms and organisations would support them for money!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c937wldkkw8o
So migrants, many of which come from countries that throw gay people off towers, are advised to say they are gay.

Ian Geary

5,439 posts

217 months

Wednesday 15th April
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Shocked, I was, shocked.

I mean there's plenty of people scamming systems the world over, so the allegation our asylum process is one of them is not surprising.

Let's see how the legal profession steps up to regulate itself...

Kawasicki

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Wednesday 15th April
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PurplePenguin said:
Kawasicki said:
This is hard to believe, that people would be dishonest and that legal firms and organisations would support them for money!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c937wldkkw8o
So migrants, many of which come from countries that throw gay people off towers, are advised to say they are gay.
Yes, and then their wives come over and are registered as lesbians.
It’s not a cheap process, but the state benefits make it worth it, apparently.


Earthdweller

18,501 posts

151 months

Wednesday 15th April
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PurplePenguin said:
So migrants, many of which come from countries that throw gay people off towers, are advised to say they are gay.
And youre happy with that ?

Countdown

48,092 posts

221 months

Wednesday 15th April
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Kawasicki said:
Yes, and then their wives come over and are registered as lesbians.
I think "Family reunions" have been stopped since last September.

In relation to the OP I won't hold my breath for the SRA to take any action against the Solicitors involved in this.

wc98

12,495 posts

165 months

Wednesday 15th April
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Kawasicki said:
This is hard to believe, that people would be dishonest and that legal firms and organisations would support them for money!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c937wldkkw8o
Really ? You don't work for the home office do you ? biggrin

Kawasicki

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Countdown said:
Kawasicki said:
Yes, and then their wives come over and are registered as lesbians.
I think "Family reunions" have been stopped since last September.

In relation to the OP I won't hold my breath for the SRA to take any action against the Solicitors involved in this.
It’s obviously not a family reunion then is it? It’s something else, that is allowed. Be flexible in your thinking!

Timothy Bucktu

16,810 posts

225 months

Wednesday 15th April
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PurplePenguin said:
Kawasicki said:
This is hard to believe, that people would be dishonest and that legal firms and organisations would support them for money!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c937wldkkw8o
So migrants, many of which come from countries that throw gay people off towers, are advised to say they are gay.
That's quite a tenuous angle I must say biglaugh
...it's the sort of thing the Greens would come out with!

Mrr T

14,996 posts

290 months

Wednesday 15th April
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Kawasicki said:
This is hard to believe, that people would be dishonest and that legal firms and organisations would support them for money!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c937wldkkw8o
Might want to correct the post. The article suggests lawyers might be involved but the only person they identify is not a lawyer but had a meeting at the office of a law firm. I would suspect the 2 firms mentioned will by in some panic waiting a letter from the SRA.

There where some lawyers caught a couple of years ago who where struck off. It takes a lot of work to qualify and you should earn good money. Seems odd to risk it. Particularly since it leaves you a target for blackmail.

The article is a bit daily wail with lots of big numbers and only at the end says the total number of claims in 2023

Tankrizzo

7,977 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th April
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I see we are now into claiming that a BBC News investigation is a "bit Daily Mail" because the truth is that unpalatable.

Kawasicki

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Mrr T said:
Kawasicki said:
This is hard to believe, that people would be dishonest and that legal firms and organisations would support them for money!

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c937wldkkw8o
Might want to correct the post. The article suggests lawyers might be involved but the only person they identify is not a lawyer but had a meeting at the office of a law firm. I would suspect the 2 firms mentioned will by in some panic waiting a letter from the SRA.

There where some lawyers caught a couple of years ago who where struck off. It takes a lot of work to qualify and you should earn good money. Seems odd to risk it. Particularly since it leaves you a target for blackmail.

The article is a bit daily wail with lots of big numbers and only at the end says the total number of claims in 2023
Oh I don’t believe the article. I simply can’t accept that any meaningful corruption is happening. Like I said it is too hard to believe! I am shocked that the BBC would report on it, as you say they must be infiltrated by Daily Wail activist type journalists.

Kawasicki

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Tankrizzo said:
I see we are now into claiming that a BBC News investigation is a "bit Daily Mail" because the truth is that unpalatable.
It is so unpalatable it simply can’t be true.

Mrr T

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Tankrizzo said:
I see we are now into claiming that a BBC News investigation is a "bit Daily Mail" because the truth is that unpalatable.
Nope. The article of is a bit wail because the start contains lots of big number but at the end says the total number of claims in 2023 was ......... 578. That claims no number on success rate.

Kawasicki

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Mrr T said:
Tankrizzo said:
I see we are now into claiming that a BBC News investigation is a "bit Daily Mail" because the truth is that unpalatable.
Nope. The article of is a bit wail because the start contains lots of big number but at the end says the total number of claims in 2023 was ......... 578. That claims no number on success rate.
Yes, the best course of action is to simply discount the article, because it is probably an exaggerated situation, and the people in the article are probably fabricating how widespread the issue is. Perfect!

Lotobear

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153 months

Wednesday 15th April
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The biggest surprise in all of this is that the BBC ran the sting.

Mrr T

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Kawasicki said:
Mrr T said:
Tankrizzo said:
I see we are now into claiming that a BBC News investigation is a "bit Daily Mail" because the truth is that unpalatable.
Nope. The article of is a bit wail because the start contains lots of big number but at the end says the total number of claims in 2023 was ......... 578. That claims no number on success rate.
Yes, the best course of action is to simply discount the article, because it is probably an exaggerated situation, and the people in the article are probably fabricating how widespread the issue is. Perfect!
I am not discounting the article. The practice is wrong and those involved punished. Including the claimants.

It maybe wide spread among the 578 claims in 2023. However, if all the claims are fake It's still only 0.7% of the total claims.

Kawasicki

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Lotobear said:
The biggest surprise in all of this is that the BBC ran the sting.
That’s the second biggest surprise. The biggest surprise is that people might be manipulating the system to gain advantage. That is truly, deeply, shocking. It seems so unlikely and unpalatable that this could be happening that we should discount it as an unlikely and infrequent occurrence. Then everyone is happy again, and we can move on with our lives.


Kawasicki

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Mrr T said:
I am not discounting the article. The practice is wrong and those involved punished. Including the claimants.

It maybe wide spread among the 578 claims in 2023. However, if all the claims are fake It's still only 0.7% of the total claims.
Exactly, it’s only a tiny proportion of claims, not that big a deal. I am disappointed in the BBC, the article may be accurate, but it is unhelpful. Malinformation, I believe it is called, and the BBC should be ashamed of themselves!!!

Camoradi

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281 months

Wednesday 15th April
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Lotobear said:
The biggest surprise in all of this is that the BBC ran the sting.
Our BBC, jumping on a far right bandwagon.