Sexual harassment
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I have mentioned this on another post, but my daughter has decided this is something that she would like to pursue.
She is 20, and has worked for a pub since she was 16 and was until this kicked off assistant restaurant manger. The pub changed hands early December and she was tuped over.
Essentially 3 weeks ago the directors partner (who cannot be a director / license holder due to his criminal past, but in reality runs the business) asked my daughter if she would run him home after work, about an hour away. This was the fist time he asked my daughter but something he often asked the staff to do, and would give them the equivalent of an uber fare.
My daughter reluctantly agreed to this (it was late, the end of a long shift and she had not had much sleep).
During the drive he pressured her for sex , going as far as offering her cash (something he always has plenty of). He also snorted cocaine in her car and encouraged her to do so. Fortunately she stuck to her gums and said no.
When she got home she had a text from his partner asking why he was in her car and where he was. It later turned out he was sat in the dark at home.
My daughter quit that night ( the hr manger had woken and was asking what was going on at 3am) and has not returned to work.
She is owed one weeks wages, and while she found employment the next day with the pubs former owner in a different venture she has taken a pay cut.
Her budget is limited and she is wary of spending a lot with solicitors but equally she feels she has lost out as a result of an employer behaving in a reprehensible way, and it’s hard to disagree.
Grateful for advise as to how she can follow this up in a proportionate way without huge exposure to costs.
She is 20, and has worked for a pub since she was 16 and was until this kicked off assistant restaurant manger. The pub changed hands early December and she was tuped over.
Essentially 3 weeks ago the directors partner (who cannot be a director / license holder due to his criminal past, but in reality runs the business) asked my daughter if she would run him home after work, about an hour away. This was the fist time he asked my daughter but something he often asked the staff to do, and would give them the equivalent of an uber fare.
My daughter reluctantly agreed to this (it was late, the end of a long shift and she had not had much sleep).
During the drive he pressured her for sex , going as far as offering her cash (something he always has plenty of). He also snorted cocaine in her car and encouraged her to do so. Fortunately she stuck to her gums and said no.
When she got home she had a text from his partner asking why he was in her car and where he was. It later turned out he was sat in the dark at home.
My daughter quit that night ( the hr manger had woken and was asking what was going on at 3am) and has not returned to work.
She is owed one weeks wages, and while she found employment the next day with the pubs former owner in a different venture she has taken a pay cut.
Her budget is limited and she is wary of spending a lot with solicitors but equally she feels she has lost out as a result of an employer behaving in a reprehensible way, and it’s hard to disagree.
Grateful for advise as to how she can follow this up in a proportionate way without huge exposure to costs.
Sounds like a horrific experience for your daughter.
Some of what she experienced is illegal, such as soliciting sex and taking drugs.
What outcome is she seeking? If it’s compensation or accountability from the organisation, she could consider sending a formal letter to the director setting out what happened and asking for a response.
If she wants justice and to help ensure it doesn’t happen to anyone else, I’d suggest reporting it to the police.
Some of what she experienced is illegal, such as soliciting sex and taking drugs.
What outcome is she seeking? If it’s compensation or accountability from the organisation, she could consider sending a formal letter to the director setting out what happened and asking for a response.
If she wants justice and to help ensure it doesn’t happen to anyone else, I’d suggest reporting it to the police.
What a disgusting f
ker. She's well out of there.
Find a solicitor who specialises in employment law and talk it through with them. IMO as well as sexual harassment it's constructive dismissal. A solicitor can write a letter for her to submit to HR.
If it's a well-known pub chain they may want to make it go away with a settlement offer. Depends what your daughter is willing to put up with to get it however, because he'll deny everything (of course)
Get your daughter to write down everything that happened so she's got it down while it's fresh.
She should also report it to the police. Who's to say how much further he could go. Or might have already gone with someone else.
ker. She's well out of there.Find a solicitor who specialises in employment law and talk it through with them. IMO as well as sexual harassment it's constructive dismissal. A solicitor can write a letter for her to submit to HR.
If it's a well-known pub chain they may want to make it go away with a settlement offer. Depends what your daughter is willing to put up with to get it however, because he'll deny everything (of course)
Get your daughter to write down everything that happened so she's got it down while it's fresh.
She should also report it to the police. Who's to say how much further he could go. Or might have already gone with someone else.
M4cruiser said:
Evidence would be good.
You don't really want it to be his word against hers.
Another vote for a dashcam with microphone on.
There are a number of messages which backup her story and I would argue her actions of quitting that night also add credence.You don't really want it to be his word against hers.
Another vote for a dashcam with microphone on.
There was a mass walkout over this as many of her colleagues decided that they did not want to work for this type of operator as a result. They managed to persuade some staff to return but lost a significant number.
I’ll have another chat. She’s had a quote from Irwin Mitchell (which was chunky!) and it’s scared her a bit. £400 an hour is a lot to someone who earned £16 an hour
When you say there are messages are they messages from the person she gave a lift home to apologising for his actions or anything similar?
Messages which only show ahead gave him a lift home wouldn t be evidence of what happened in the car?
Whilst the behaviour is abhorrent I wouldn t want to see £400 an hour thrown at something which has no realistic chance of a positive outcome.
Have you looked into contacting Acas for advice?
Messages which only show ahead gave him a lift home wouldn t be evidence of what happened in the car?
Whilst the behaviour is abhorrent I wouldn t want to see £400 an hour thrown at something which has no realistic chance of a positive outcome.
Have you looked into contacting Acas for advice?
Edited by Jamescrs on Saturday 18th April 07:25
surveyor said:
There are a number of messages which backup her story and I would argue her actions of quitting that night also add credence.
There was a mass walkout over this as many of her colleagues decided that they did not want to work for this type of operator as a result. They managed to persuade some staff to return but lost a significant number.
I ll have another chat. She s had a quote from Irwin Mitchell (which was chunky!) and it s scared her a bit. £400 an hour is a lot to someone who earned £16 an hour
I don't think it does. There was a mass walkout over this as many of her colleagues decided that they did not want to work for this type of operator as a result. They managed to persuade some staff to return but lost a significant number.
I ll have another chat. She s had a quote from Irwin Mitchell (which was chunky!) and it s scared her a bit. £400 an hour is a lot to someone who earned £16 an hour
"She offered me a lift home, and then hit on me in the car. She was embarrassed when I refused - I'm in a relationship! - and said she would quit her job to avoid further embarrassment".
Wow what a scum bag. I suspect you would be up for £10k bill trying to get a weeks wages? You would need to go to court and prove it and get the money back.
I would report the drugs to the police and push that he was dealing, as he offered them in exchange for money and sex. I suspect the police would investigate as it’s a public and even if nothing comes of it, it’s still on the polices radar.
I would report the drugs to the police and push that he was dealing, as he offered them in exchange for money and sex. I suspect the police would investigate as it’s a public and even if nothing comes of it, it’s still on the polices radar.
surveyor said:
When she got home she had a text from his partner asking why he was in her car and where he was. It later turned out he was sat in the dark at home.
My daughter quit that night ( the hr manger had woken and was asking what was going on at 3am) and has not returned to work.
Why the new thread? Nothing seems to have changed. Why the delay? That "evidence" needs to be secured and then deployed without delay.My daughter quit that night ( the hr manger had woken and was asking what was going on at 3am) and has not returned to work.
surveyor said:
I have mentioned this on another post, but my daughter has decided this is something that she would like to pursue.
She is 20, and has worked for a pub since she was 16 and was until this kicked off assistant restaurant manger. The pub changed hands early December and she was tuped over.
Essentially 3 weeks ago the directors partner (who cannot be a director / license holder due to his criminal past, but in reality runs the business) asked my daughter if she would run him home after work, about an hour away. This was the fist time he asked my daughter but something he often asked the staff to do, and would give them the equivalent of an uber fare.
My daughter reluctantly agreed to this (it was late, the end of a long shift and she had not had much sleep).
During the drive he pressured her for sex , going as far as offering her cash (something he always has plenty of). He also snorted cocaine in her car and encouraged her to do so. Fortunately she stuck to her gums and said no.
When she got home she had a text from his partner asking why he was in her car and where he was. It later turned out he was sat in the dark at home.
My daughter quit that night ( the hr manger had woken and was asking what was going on at 3am) and has not returned to work.
She is owed one weeks wages, and while she found employment the next day with the pubs former owner in a different venture she has taken a pay cut.
Her budget is limited and she is wary of spending a lot with solicitors but equally she feels she has lost out as a result of an employer behaving in a reprehensible way, and it s hard to disagree.
Grateful for advise as to how she can follow this up in a proportionate way without huge exposure to costs.
This needs to be reported to the police, not least because it may not have been the first time he has done it. Next time he pressurises someone they might not stand their ground. She is 20, and has worked for a pub since she was 16 and was until this kicked off assistant restaurant manger. The pub changed hands early December and she was tuped over.
Essentially 3 weeks ago the directors partner (who cannot be a director / license holder due to his criminal past, but in reality runs the business) asked my daughter if she would run him home after work, about an hour away. This was the fist time he asked my daughter but something he often asked the staff to do, and would give them the equivalent of an uber fare.
My daughter reluctantly agreed to this (it was late, the end of a long shift and she had not had much sleep).
During the drive he pressured her for sex , going as far as offering her cash (something he always has plenty of). He also snorted cocaine in her car and encouraged her to do so. Fortunately she stuck to her gums and said no.
When she got home she had a text from his partner asking why he was in her car and where he was. It later turned out he was sat in the dark at home.
My daughter quit that night ( the hr manger had woken and was asking what was going on at 3am) and has not returned to work.
She is owed one weeks wages, and while she found employment the next day with the pubs former owner in a different venture she has taken a pay cut.
Her budget is limited and she is wary of spending a lot with solicitors but equally she feels she has lost out as a result of an employer behaving in a reprehensible way, and it s hard to disagree.
Grateful for advise as to how she can follow this up in a proportionate way without huge exposure to costs.
Rob
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Why the new thread? Nothing seems to have changed. Why the delay? That "evidence" needs to be secured and then deployed without delay.
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The previous thread was originally about holiday pay and this has become far more serious
[quote=Jasandjules]It may be that a short without prejudice letter would elicit a response and payment required. It may be they would fight, hard to say...
The partner of the director, is he an employee? If not, why was he there?
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I doubt anyone knows the answer but him and his partner. He was briefly a director before resigning.
The background to this is a criminal conviction and substantial sentence for drugs distribution. We think he is likely out on license.
It is a bit of a mess as an ongoing concern Is tackling this sort of person.
Why the new thread? Nothing seems to have changed. Why the delay? That "evidence" needs to be secured and then deployed without delay.
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The previous thread was originally about holiday pay and this has become far more serious
[quote=Jasandjules]It may be that a short without prejudice letter would elicit a response and payment required. It may be they would fight, hard to say...
The partner of the director, is he an employee? If not, why was he there?
Edited by Jasandjules on Saturday 18th April 13:10
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I doubt anyone knows the answer but him and his partner. He was briefly a director before resigning.
The background to this is a criminal conviction and substantial sentence for drugs distribution. We think he is likely out on license.
It is a bit of a mess as an ongoing concern Is tackling this sort of person.
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