RE: Voyage of Discovery | PH Footnote
RE: Voyage of Discovery | PH Footnote
Saturday 18th April

Voyage of Discovery | PH Footnote

You can still buy a brand new Land Rover Discovery 5 - should you?


Nobody likes to be upstaged, but that is what happened to the Land Rover Discovery. No sooner had it been launched to pretty widespread acclaim, and appetites duly whetted for an SVX flagship, than the V8 plan was cancelled… and then there was the new Defender. No longer a farm runaround, the latter was transformed into a stylish, family-friendly SUV with excellent road manners and a name known the world over. It could even seat seven (or eight, in 130 spec). Which was traditionally the job of the Discovery. So, almost a decade after launch and with some kind of replacement surely imminent, where does that leave the Disco 5 in 2026?

There’s no escaping the richly deserved, runaway success of the Defender, meaning there's surely no way that a Discovery 6 will be the same sort of thing again, because with two very similar SUVs on sale, buyers are only going to choose one - and we all know which one that is right now. The Disco range is down to just the D350 engine (the best one, at least), with last year seeing the introduction of Gemini and Tempest special editions to sit alongside the Metropolitan, S, SE and HSE. 

The car you see here is a Tempest, right at the top of the range (from £83k) with 22-inch diamond turned wheels, Petra Cooper accents, the 20-way adjustable massage driver’s seat and everything else you could possibly get on a Disco: an electric third row of seats, Meridian sound, Matrix LED lights, four-zone climate… You get the idea. It’s a Range Rover Discovery, really, as plush as they come. And £20k more than the entry-level model. 

So what can a Discovery offer, if anything, over a Defender? Well, without wishing to sound too obvious (or trite), not being a Defender must be a strong selling point for the Discovery right now. Leave the bodykits, black wheels, daft accessories and recruiters to the Defender; the Disco, once upon a time the upstart, has arguably become the traditional, subdued Land Rover offering. And how innocent the days of 2017 now seem, when an offset numberplate was the greatest crime ever committed against SUV design. Far more egregious acts have occurred since. Indeed, while the 5 is plainly not as pitch-perfect as its predecessor, like so much from the last decade that’s still on sale it doesn’t scrub up too badly. What once seemed OTT has mellowed quite nicely.

Same goes inside. Where cars like the Range Rover Sport are now focused on being a ‘modern expression of reductive luxury’ (and to heck with usability), the Discovery boasts novel (and actually handy) features like storage behind the physical HVAC controls. Just to confirm that the claims about ditching buttons freeing up space really is nonsense - you can have both. There’s obviously acres of room, Pivi Pro continues to function nicely for infotainment, and the driver’s seat - complete with Captains’ armrest - makes for a superb driving position. Your arms can relax with hands still perfectly placed on the wheel, visibility is great, and the relationship with the pedals is ideal. No matter how daunting a journey seems, just getting into that seat allays a lot of the apprehension. 

As does a projected range of 575 miles. While the idea of a large diesel unit in a bulky 4x4 is hardly a new one, it remains terrifically well-suited to moving lots of stuff a long way with a minimum of stress (until it comes to paying for more diesel). The D350, despite not being the freshest compression ignition unit around, still impresses with its refinement, performance and efficiency: it’ll cruise at 40mpg for as long as you can. The eight-speed auto is still the perfect sidekick, even when taking manual control with the beautiful (and totally unnecessary) paddles.

Furthermore, while a Discovery absolutely still ranks as a very large, very heavy machine, it’s always a car you can drive with confidence and - should the food hall be about to close - some vigour as well. Every major control is accurate and well weighted, so while you’ll never scythe through any S-bends or stop on a dime, you’ll also never have second guess what the car is doing. It’s a clever compromise to deliver supreme comfort while not totally distancing the driver from what’s going on, and it’s very neatly judged by the Discovery. It’s still a pleasure to be behind the wheel of, basically, and that’s without venturing off-road at all. 

And the but? We all knew it was coming. The simple fact remains that a Defender does everything a Disco does, but just that little bit better. It would be lovely to report that the old ways were better, but that isn’t the case. A Defender can also have its ADAS turned off more easily, can accommodate a family with ease, drives very adeptly on road and exceptionally well away from it. Maybe the Defender image isn’t the greatest - a victim in many ways of its own success - though there’s no denying that it’s the superior car, and a better looking one, too. While a Tempest is undoubtedly a very lovely Discovery (and deals will surely be out there), it’s difficult to recommend it at more than £85,000. 

Land Rover will know this, of course. The current Disco is presumably nearing the final curtain, and special edition models are likely meant to encourage repeat buyers to trade up before that happens. Given the smart money is on a battery-powered replacement, they may feel inclined to do just that, and will be delighted to learn that the 5 is as capable and likeable as it ever was. Hardly a shock given its maker's reluctance to make wholesale changes, but also a fair reminder of just how good it was out the box - even with a weird numberplate. Get the 350hp diesel, get the Captains’ armrest, get the big wheels if you really want to, and the Disco will make fine family transport for a long while yet. Easy to spot in a car park full of Defenders, too.


SPECIFICATION | LAND ROVER DISCOVERY D350 TEMPEST

Engine: 2,993cc, inline-six, turbocharged, diesel, plus belt-integrated starter generator
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 350@4,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 516@1,500-3,000rpm
0-62mph: 5.9 seconds
Top speed: 130mph
Kerbweight: 2,316kg (DIN)
MPG: up to 33.4 (WLTP, combined)
CO2: from 222g/km (WLTP)
Price: £83,720 (OTR RRP as standard; price as tested £88,740 comprising Secure Tracker Pro for £475, 22-inch full-size spare wheel for £1,010, Advanced Off-Road Pack (High/low-range transfer box, All Terrain Progress Control, Terrain Response 2, Configurable Terrain Response, Active Locking Rear Differential) for £1,610), Cold Climate Pack (Heated washer jets, headlight power wash) for £310, Towing Pack (Advanced Tow Assist, Electrically deployable tow bar) for £1,615) 

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GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,404 posts

234 months

It would be a risk that’s for sure, a Defender would be the smarter purchase (unless there are massive discounts).

Bigger problem for me in buying any JLR product would be that my local dealer in Peterborough is now selling BYD, and the nearest JLR is either Leicester or Cambridge. Too much faff given statistically you’d likely end up visiting quite often given the legendary reliability!

BlandfordFly

15 posts

79 months

Its interesting reading about the price of this and the extras.
I wonder how long it will be before China or similar make a very capable off roader like this for 50k fully loaded with the "extras" with nothing more to pay.

Crumpet

5,068 posts

204 months

I still think they make some of the best cars on the road but, for some reason, JLR have closed all the decent dealers and left us with the awful ones. They closed our local Jag garage and then the Land Rover garage shortly after, so when we tried to buy a new (used) Defender last year we had to drive 40 minutes to Huddersfield rather than 10 as before.

Let’s just say there’s a reason our driveway is now BMW / Porsche and not JLR / JLR as it had been for ten years. And it’s not the cars.

Bencolem

1,155 posts

263 months

First car we looked at when needing a dog carrier at the end of last year was a Discovery. My wife felt it drove like it was ‘top heavy’ and moved around by sidewinds. I didn’t like the cheap centre console around the gear lever. We bought a Touareg.

Lefty

19,975 posts

226 months

It does rather seem to have lost its purpose, it used to be the natural midpoint between utility vehicle and luxury vehicle now they’re all luxury vehicles. (Plus RR sport plus velar plus evoque of course).


GianiCakes

619 posts

97 months

I thought they stopped making these a long time ago. Nothing says JLR management like continuing with these whilst trying to remove the Land Rover name and, per comments above, closing dealerships in populous areas. They really are special.

jon-yprpe

451 posts

112 months

Moved from a Disco 5 to a Defender 110. Biggest difference is that we opted for no airbags on the Defender and much prefer it without the air-suspension wallow. Bar that, the Disco has a much bigger boot.

I kind of miss the Disco….as the article says, it benefits from not being a Defender.

skeeterm5

4,484 posts

212 months

They could have fixed the number plate offset at least!

rassi

2,514 posts

275 months

skeeterm5 said:
They could have fixed the number plate offset at least!
Exactly! Once you see it, it is impossible to ignore it and just ruins the backend

Lester H

4,075 posts

129 months

rassi said:
skeeterm5 said:
They could have fixed the number plate offset at least!
Exactly! Once you see it, it is impossible to ignore it and just ruins the backend
Yes, such a trivial detail but almost always mentioned when Discovery is discussed. You can know it doesn’t matter but can still see it as a dealbreaker, especially as the Defender in some of its simpler versions is so attractive.

A.J.M

8,339 posts

210 months

In the right colour and trim level.

They are a nice looking car, I still hate the tailgate so that wouldn’t fixed with the aftermarket central plate modification.

I’ve seen quite a few 75 and 26 plate ones about.

Earlier ones seem to be the farmers car of choice in a few areas I go to.
Regularly see them muddy with a livestock trailer on the back.
Guess they make a more comfortable change from a Hilux or D max.

Lester H

4,075 posts

129 months

BlandfordFly said:
Its interesting reading about the price of this and the extras.
I wonder how long it will be before China or similar make a very capable off roader like this for 50k fully loaded with the "extras" with nothing more to pay.
Not long and perhaps less than 50k all in. Even idealists sometimes vote with their wallets.

croyde

25,682 posts

254 months

Personally I don't think the New Defender is a Defender. It's become the new Disco.

Ineos appear to be making the New Defender.

Did have a Disco 3 back in 2005. Did a great job as a family wagon, some off roading, work vehicle as well as continental trips, but.......

Despite being comfortable and useful, too many things kept going wrong with it so I got rid once the warranty was finished.

LightweightLouisDanvers

2,789 posts

67 months

The matt paint does nothing for it, or any car for that matter.

Deranged Rover

4,444 posts

98 months

Practical and vaguely sensible it may be but it’s still a big ugly lump and only comes tractor-powered.

Time to let it die a dignified death IMHO.

Bobby Lee

274 posts

79 months

Lester H said:
rassi said:
skeeterm5 said:
They could have fixed the number plate offset at least!
Exactly! Once you see it, it is impossible to ignore it and just ruins the backend
Yes, such a trivial detail but almost always mentioned when Discovery is discussed. You can know it doesn t matter but can still see it as a dealbreaker, especially as the Defender in some of its simpler versions is so attractive.
Add that to the fact it’s taller than it is wide…

GreatScott2016

2,295 posts

112 months

Bobby Lee said:
Lester H said:
rassi said:
skeeterm5 said:
They could have fixed the number plate offset at least!
Exactly! Once you see it, it is impossible to ignore it and just ruins the backend
Yes, such a trivial detail but almost always mentioned when Discovery is discussed. You can know it doesn t matter but can still see it as a dealbreaker, especially as the Defender in some of its simpler versions is so attractive.
Add that to the fact it s taller than it is wide
Yep, that off-set plate has niggled away at me too since it was first launched. That aside, a nice vehicle but my money would be going to a Defender if I was in the market smile

A.J.M

8,339 posts

210 months

Deranged Rover said:
Practical and vaguely sensible it may be but it s still a big ugly lump and only comes tractor-powered.

Time to let it die a dignified death IMHO.
Almost no one buys a petrol discovery.

They stopped the V8 D3 after 2 years in the uk because of awful sales.
No V8 D4 was uk sold, they are all imports.

The diesel makes sense for 99.9% of usage.

el romeral

1,947 posts

161 months

GreatScott2016 said:
Bobby Lee said:
Lester H said:
rassi said:
skeeterm5 said:
They could have fixed the number plate offset at least!
Exactly! Once you see it, it is impossible to ignore it and just ruins the backend
Yes, such a trivial detail but almost always mentioned when Discovery is discussed. You can know it doesn t matter but can still see it as a dealbreaker, especially as the Defender in some of its simpler versions is so attractive.
Add that to the fact it s taller than it is wide
Yep, that off-set plate has niggled away at me too since it was first launched. That aside, a nice vehicle but my money would be going to a Defender if I was in the market smile
Glad it is not just me then. It seems they made it that way, just because they could. One could always team up a Discovery with an Alfa, of a certain model, for a perfect two car offset plate, garage.

Lester H

4,075 posts

129 months

A.J.M said:
In the right colour and trim level.

They are a nice looking car, I still hate the tailgate so that wouldn t fixed with the aftermarket central plate modification.

I ve seen quite a few 75 and 26 plate ones about.

Earlier ones seem to be the farmers car of choice in a few areas I go to.
Regularly see them muddy with a livestock trailer on the back.
Guess they make a more comfortable change from a Hilux or D max.
Yes, and that money I wonder if it makes a case for a Grenadier.