Two plants to ID please.

[Skyedriver]

The first (there are two in the pot, there had been 3 last year but one was eaten), I thought were Echinops or Eryngium but I'm not so sure now as the leaves aren't spiky edged just simple rounded. I'm sure they're a blue flower but they've never actually flowered yet, just what the box said...

The second, I have absolutely no idea unless this is what I thought was in photo 1! It looks like a pineapple! Yes there is something else growing in there, probably a weed.

Thanks fellow and better horticulturists.

[Megaflow]

According to an app I have, they are:

1) Blue eryngo
2) Lily

[Skyedriver]

Thanks, think that confirms my thoughts on 1, but Lily, not sure where I've got that from?

[Ste-EVo]

No idea on first one, my initial thought was something of the begonia family. But id agree, second one looks like a lily.

[Skyedriver]

Think I'll go with Erygnium as I think that what I bought last year and Lily although where that came from is a total mystery....

Reminds me of the Lonnie Donegan song, "My old Man's a Dustman" You'll have to be (very) old to understand that one...