Employing over 45s
Discussion
It’s more about the person than their age in my experience, some in their 20s are lazy and addicted to their phones, others are keen to learn and get on. A mixture of ages and experience of the job and life works best in our office, older staff can pass on their knowledge to the younger ones coming in. Whilst you highlight older staff being absent due to health issues, they are less likely to be off on maternity leave for extended periods so it’s swings and roundabouts.
t.craigjm said:
People start slowing down and getting ill at 45/50? Any company that really thinks that is going to struggle with the rising retirement age and the slowing of the birth rate.
Agreed. I wouldn't expect anyone in that age range to be any slower or ill than someone younger, unless it was a very physical job.98elise said:
craigjm said:
People start slowing down and getting ill at 45/50? Any company that really thinks that is going to struggle with the rising retirement age and the slowing of the birth rate.
Agreed. I wouldn't expect anyone in that age range to be any slower or ill than someone younger, unless it was a very physical job.Giving the likes of Autoslags 10 jobs a day was more for their vanity. It makes no sense in the real world and just knackers people out as well as forces them to cut corners or make mistakes.
I think the best employees at the moment are 30+
My experience of having early 20's working for me is that they think they know best, try and do all their work on their phone and don't like listening to instructions. When I came out of uni, 20 years ago, I was diligent, hard working and eager to learn. Young people come out of uni and think they've made it and they're owed something for having gone through uni.
All stems from kids being told they can be whatever they want to be and that if they don't like it they can complain.
My experience of having early 20's working for me is that they think they know best, try and do all their work on their phone and don't like listening to instructions. When I came out of uni, 20 years ago, I was diligent, hard working and eager to learn. Young people come out of uni and think they've made it and they're owed something for having gone through uni.
All stems from kids being told they can be whatever they want to be and that if they don't like it they can complain.
Over 45 is the generation that learned what it is to graft.
Not whinge
Not whine
And just to get the job done.
Personal responsibility comes with the package.
As does an inbuilt toughness that is sadly lost.
Your over 45 will spend more time worrying about company results than how they look, how they post or using pronouns.
They understand productivity. Not just how to spell it and produce a graph
Not whinge
Not whine
And just to get the job done.
Personal responsibility comes with the package.
As does an inbuilt toughness that is sadly lost.
Your over 45 will spend more time worrying about company results than how they look, how they post or using pronouns.
They understand productivity. Not just how to spell it and produce a graph
craigjm said:
People start slowing down and getting ill at 45/50? Any company that really thinks that is going to struggle with the rising retirement age and the slowing of the birth rate.
A chap I know is 68, still working at a high level and ran some marathons through deserts just a few years ago. 45 is old?TX.
I think a lot is down to the individual. Some guys I know in their 60s appear to be powered by Duracells, whereas some of the 20s and 30s lot have got Poundland specials.
What’s very noticeable though is that anyone 50+ who starts with us that doesn’t have relevant experience almost always struggles. The ability to learn and adapt seems to drop off a cliff.
That being said, the work ethic and attitude of some of the late 20s people I’ve worked with recently has been atrocious. I kicked one out of a taxi for refusing to wear a seat belt; there’s an entitled attitude to a lot of them.
What’s very noticeable though is that anyone 50+ who starts with us that doesn’t have relevant experience almost always struggles. The ability to learn and adapt seems to drop off a cliff.
That being said, the work ethic and attitude of some of the late 20s people I’ve worked with recently has been atrocious. I kicked one out of a taxi for refusing to wear a seat belt; there’s an entitled attitude to a lot of them.
Try public sector, applications are blind sifted so the recruiters don't see any information to give away the persons age, gender, religion, ethnicity etc.
Older applicants tend to have more transferable skills so are likely to be suitable for higher graded roles and usually happier to stay there. The young ones have to start at the bottom and usually move on quickly as they need more money just to live.
Older applicants tend to have more transferable skills so are likely to be suitable for higher graded roles and usually happier to stay there. The young ones have to start at the bottom and usually move on quickly as they need more money just to live.
JonPH said:
I d always valued experience and this thread is clearly over generalisations.
That said , we like huge commitment which we ve traditionally found with those under 40 .
What is your definition of 'huge commitment'? Long hours, evening and/or weekend working, travelling on personal time, short notice travel, frequent stays away from home...?That said , we like huge commitment which we ve traditionally found with those under 40 .
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