Does this constitute fly tipping?
Does this constitute fly tipping?
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W124Bob

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1,861 posts

200 months

Friday 1st May
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Building rubble tossed over a fence onto the pavement, including outside a neighbouring house? Urban road 200yds from a school and narrow at this point. The house with the To Let is NOT involved.


Top stack of bricks now exposed.


Edited by W124Bob on Friday 1st May 14:50

MediumBuild

1,158 posts

3 months

Friday 1st May
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I’d say so. Are they just expecting the council to take it away because they can’t be arsed?

abzmike

11,504 posts

131 months

Friday 1st May
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They're maybe planning to take it away later? Still untidy.

W124Bob

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1,861 posts

200 months

Friday 1st May
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I'll post again tomorrow, but I doubt it will be removed before Tuesday. No suitable vehicle other than an old Fiesta!

nordboy

3,040 posts

75 months

Friday 1st May
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Potential offence of Obstructing the Highway there? (Highways act 1980)

Jonmx

2,872 posts

238 months

Friday 1st May
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nordboy said:
Potential offence of Obstructing the Highway there? (Highways act 1980)
Yep, pretty clear cut. Wilful obstruction of a Highway. Amusingly 'preventing obstruction of a Highway' is also an arrest necessity under Code G PACE.

trickywoo

13,799 posts

255 months

Friday 1st May
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Good luck finding anyone with authority to do anything that will take an interest.

It’s wrong and shouldn’t happen but you’ll be very lucky to get any resolution with an official complaint.

I had something similar and was told to report it to HSE (health and safety) who after weeks of waiting told me they wouldn’t do anything other than note it down in case of anything else happening.

48k

16,631 posts

173 months

Friday 1st May
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It's a bank holiday weekend, it will be gone before anyone in authority can do anything about it anyway.

abzmike

11,504 posts

131 months

Friday 1st May
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nordboy said:
Potential offence of Obstructing the Highway there? (Highways act 1980)
The pallets of bricks are causing more of an obstruction than the rubbish...

Ian Geary

5,412 posts

217 months

Friday 1st May
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Some councils use private sector contractors to enforce litter rules.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c30l14l5q9jo
This article is of a guy getting a £500 fine for leaving 2 doors propped up outside his house for a few hours.

It also includes a lady leaving unwanted furniture out for collection.

Over-zealous comes to mind, but it is a post code lottery at present, so some councils are over enforced and other under enforced.

(Though I wonder if a contractor would tackle a bunch of big lads tipping waste, or just walk the other way)

ve also seen people who leave un

gazza285

10,943 posts

233 months

Saturday 2nd May
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Ian Geary said:
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ve also seen people who leave un
Me too.

John D.

20,446 posts

234 months

Saturday 2nd May
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MediumBuild said:
I d say so. Are they just expecting the council to take it away because they can t be arsed?
No. It will be sat waiting for a grab lorry to take it away. Some builders use those rather than a skip.

I don't agree with blocking the pavement like that, but fly tipping on your own (or clients) doorstep is beyond idiotic.

m3jappa

6,892 posts

243 months

Saturday 2nd May
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Great example of why someone is significantly cheaper.

someone ordered the blocks to be delivered before its ready or even dug out, hence the pile of crap now on the pavement because they've ran out of space.

Unfortunately being considerate costs.

Not that many potential customers care at the getting prices stage. It's just a cost comparison with the more expensive bloke probably 'ripping off' people.

But this is part of the result of using idiots.

It's not fly tipping as such, the council won't like it but they would be told to clear it asap.

by the time the council get there it will be gone.

OutInTheShed

13,495 posts

51 months

Saturday 2nd May
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Years ago I had some work done on a flat fronted terraced house with no garden, we had to get a 'pavement licence' or something from the council to occupy the pavement with scaffold and materials.

Pip1968

1,386 posts

229 months

Sunday 3rd May
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I am no expert but am sure HSE would fine the company or individual as the pavement is blocked and there are no cones or barriers to protect pedestrians walking into the road to get around it. Hopefully it will be gone on Tuesday otherwise report them. Someone will deserve a fine if it is still there.

Pip

Ziplobb

1,556 posts

309 months

Sunday 3rd May
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its what skips are for

GasEngineer

2,307 posts

87 months

Sunday 3rd May
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Ziplobb said:
its what skips are for
Because of the recent price hikes for skips; contractors are increasing using a service that comes and collects the ste in either a truck or a grabber if it's rubble. (Hopefully they don't just fly tip it somewhere).

You need to leave the ste somewhere accessible.

Perhaps that what is happening here.

Seesure

1,223 posts

264 months

Sunday 3rd May
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John D. said:
MediumBuild said:
I d say so. Are they just expecting the council to take it away because they can t be arsed?
No. It will be sat waiting for a grab lorry to take it away. Some builders use those rather than a skip.

I don't agree with blocking the pavement like that, but fly tipping on your own (or clients) doorstep is beyond idiotic.
We used grab lorries when doing renovations back in 2022, we did have one skip which was approximately 30% more in cost and held significantly less than the grab lorries did...

Cash was king and made a significant difference when counted against the 8-9 lorry loads that was taken away...