Owner responsible for upkeep of land in front of house.
Owner responsible for upkeep of land in front of house.
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croyde

Original Poster:

25,757 posts

255 months

Yesterday (16:12)
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I'm looking at a small one bedroom house down on the Kent coast that comes with a garage. It's all I can afford smile

It looks lovely and if I get rid of nearly everything I own, I could fit in there.

It's in a nice area 10 minutes walk from the town and it's been on the market since November with a couple of price reductions. Now up for less than it cost a few years ago.

Just talked to the agent and it seems that everyone that views it, loves it but there's an area to the front outside the actual 'boundary' of the house extending to the pavement with a big 35ft pine tree.

Seems that whoever owns the house has to be responsible for this land even though it looks public.

Thus you'll be landed with tree surgeon costs for maintenance and cutting the grass twice a week as it's a nice area and can't look tatty.

So all the inconvenience of a garden without me being able to sit there with a glass of beer whilst drying my smalls on a line.

Is this normal?

Obviously why the place hasn't sold.



ETA

Looking at that pic I'd say that the tree is a lot taller than 35ft.

Edited by croyde on Friday 8th May 16:17

Badda

3,709 posts

107 months

Yesterday (16:16)
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Can’t help but I’d still buy it if the tree wasn’t under a TPO.

croyde

Original Poster:

25,757 posts

255 months

Yesterday (16:18)
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Badda said:
Can t help but I d still buy it if the tree wasn t under a TPO.
As in chop it down biggrin

Plus4Four#

167 posts

6 months

Yesterday (16:38)
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Who actually owns that land? The house up for sale?
Covenants re maintenance?
How are adjacent properties affected?
Ask the agent for evidence rather than just comments.

Bill

57,610 posts

280 months

Yesterday (16:41)
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If it's outside the boundary what's the compulsion to maintain it, and if it isn't (or even if it is) why can't you sit there with a beer. Either it's the front garden or it's not...

And why would that tree need a tree surgeon??

Ste-EVo

463 posts

176 months

Yesterday (16:42)
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[quote=Plus4Four#]Who actually owns that land? The house up for sale?
Covenants re maintenance?
How are adjacent properties affected?
Ask the agent for evidence rather than just comments.
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Exactly this.

Things like this, I always find intriguing so looking forward to knowing the outcome.

No TPO?!?! Chop it down would be my idea, but guessing there isn't a reason others haven't followed that idea.

croyde

Original Poster:

25,757 posts

255 months

Yesterday (16:56)
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It has got a TPO. So planning needed even for just maintenance. I just checked with the local council.

At the mo' this is all from talking to the girl in the office. I've asked her to contact the seller for more info.

Maybe, as the owner, one can put a fence up so it's truly a garden biggrin

Simpo Two

91,743 posts

290 months

Yesterday (17:59)
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croyde said:
It has got a TPO. So planning needed even for just maintenance. I just checked with the local council.
The next question is 'Where does it say you're responsible for it'?

Even if you are, which seems unlikely because you wouldn't own it, it's just a tree. It's also a very nice tree.

Ste-EVo

463 posts

176 months

Yesterday (18:19)
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Sounds like a load of agro, especially if it has a TPO.

If its not easily sorted I think id walk away, unless you REALLY want the property.

Its a very strange set up tho.

Is the house youre looking at one of those in the picture? Just trying to gauge where it is in comparison to the house.

Maybe ask the current owner if you can see the deeds showing the property boundaries. Or knock on potential neighbours for their views?

croyde

Original Poster:

25,757 posts

255 months

Yesterday (18:24)
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It's 80 miles away from me but I might pop down next week if I get a list of other places to see.

The house is to the right of the tree.

andyxxx

1,386 posts

252 months

Yesterday (20:36)
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If I wanted the house I would happily spend 20 mins cutting the grass every couple of weeks – even if not enforced.

The tree is no big deal and may not even be there in a few years.
Put a low bid in – say £10k less which will cover your costs of tree maintenance for the next 20 years?

AW10

4,642 posts

274 months

Yesterday (21:48)
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Strikes me as worth spending a few quid to get the land registry docs to confirm the facts.

snuffy

12,609 posts

309 months

Yesterday (22:24)
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The estate agent's listing says the "The bank to the front belongs to the property".


Simpo Two

91,743 posts

290 months

Yesterday (22:48)
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snuffy said:
The estate agent's listing says the "The bank to the front belongs to the property".
How did you find that?

I'd still want proof, not something an EA says.

croyde

Original Poster:

25,757 posts

255 months

Yesterday (22:52)
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Good detective work biggrin

I certainly can't buy it now, everyone will know where I live.

snuffy

12,609 posts

309 months

Yesterday (23:12)
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croyde said:
Good detective work biggrin

I certainly can't buy it now, everyone will know where I live.
If I post the address, we could all come around for a party! thumbup

We could have a tree warming party - bring a mower!


The Redcoat

3,916 posts

189 months

AW10 said:
Strikes me as worth spending a few quid to get the land registry docs to confirm the facts.
I would definitely be doing this op. The EA description seems fairly vague, although it could mean just the part of the bank that slopes up from the house towards the shared driveway and garage area.


The location looks good - an easy walk to the store to taste the different products. wink

blueg33

45,392 posts

249 months

Op needs to see the title/transfer for obligations and the title plan. Even better the original transfer plan.