RE: Opel Monza GSE | Spotted
RE: Opel Monza GSE | Spotted
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Opel Monza GSE | Spotted

The GSE badge is back - time to revisit an old school hero


The GSE badge was a good one to be resurrected by Vauxhall and Opel, even if it should now be written GSe. It rolls off the tongue quite nicely, it sounds appropriately sporty without being OTT, and it’s always handy when an old name can be reused for the electric era. So expect many more like the Astra, Corsa, and Mokka, basically. 

The return for the UK market of GSE is notable because there has only actually ever been one previous model sold here. There have been GTEs, GSIs, SRIs, HSRs and VXRs aplenty, but only one GSE: the Monza. Now there’s an evocative name, Opel Monza GSE.  The ultimate version of what was basically a Senator coupe, it came with all the goodies expected of an early 80s coupe: digital dash, Recaro seats, strakes where strakes didn’t really need to be, and a burly 3.0-litre straight six under the bonnet. It may have been the only GSE ever sold here, but it remains fondly recalled by enthusiasts - how could something this handsome not be? 

Plus there’s the fact that the models like the Monza (and the related Vauxhall Royale) were never replaced. Nothing burnishes a reputation quite like the end of a lineage. So seeing any GSE these days, more than 40 years after the last one was made, is notable. But especially so for this one, as it’s modified, magazine featured Monza that’s had a huge amount of everything invested to make it one of the best in the world. 

Those with very good memories might recall that this Monza has featured before but, quite frankly, it’s cool enough to have the limelight once more. Especially at £5k less than it was advertised for in 2022 after just 1,800 more miles; it’s nice to see, for buyers at least, that classics can go down in value as well as up. The headlines for this one are a 24-valve engine conversion from a Carlton GSI (the standard 3.0 was 12-valve), which will bring a useful power gain; it also has working air-con and a sunroof, both handy going into summer; oh yes, and the small matter of £100,000 spent over the years on maintenance…

Actually, maintenance sells it short, because there are elements of restoration in that incredible spend as well. This Monza really is an extraordinary example inside and out, a testament to the money and effort that’s been spent on it. The six-figure claim was made last time this car was sold, so it probably hasn’t benefitted from much recent work (apart from the wheel swap); but then having covered just a couple of thousand miles since it understandably looks absolutely as good as it did. There looks to be a newer stereo now. 

And when contemporary E24 BMWs are for sale at anything up to £130,000, paying a little more than £20k for a much rarer Monza doesn’t sound like a bad deal at all. It’s hard to imagine, even as a 42-year-old car, that there’d be very much to work on given the scope of the recent overhaul. All that’s hopefully on the to do list is to drive and enjoy, which shouldn’t be very hard at all.


SPECIFICATION | OPEL MONZA 3.0 GSE

Engine: 2,969cc, straight six
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 180@5,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 183@4,600-4,800rpm
CO2: N/A
MPG: N/A
Recorded mileage: 87,800
Year registered: 1984
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £22,950

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m62tu

Original Poster:

128 posts

64 months

Needs a 3 pedal conversion and nothing else. The Monza, Supra and GTV6 from that era have wonderful design lines. A pity, shooting brakes have gone extinct in todays car market.

Puddenchucker

5,516 posts

243 months

As this has the 24v engine from the Carlton, shouldn't the power be 204hp instead of the std 180hp in the advert?

el romeral

1,972 posts

162 months

These were very aspirational back in the day, along with the Senator. Has this one been a bit modded? I would definitely change that tailpipe, has a very unsporty and sad look about it.

pSyCoSiS

4,220 posts

230 months

Lovely car and actually seems decent value for the money it has had spent.

yme402

617 posts

127 months

We had it so good back then.
All we have today is generic SUVs that you cannot distinguish if you are more than 12 paces away.

droopsnoot

14,288 posts

267 months

Wasn't the Commodore GSE officially sold in the UK?

I disagree with the note about converting to manual. My mate had one of these years ago, and I thought it suited the car to be auto in the same way that I think it suits the 928, but it wouldn't suit a Manta or 944.

Frimley111R

18,624 posts

259 months

Lovely apart from:

Aftermarket wheels/budget tyres
Some sort of rivetted panel in the front left of the engine bay
Exhaust
Budget car mats

chrisman

58 posts

83 months

Lovely thing, peak 80s coupe, not badly priced and that 24V engine is a peach.

J4CKO

46,136 posts

225 months

droopsnoot said:
Wasn't the Commodore GSE officially sold in the UK?

I disagree with the note about converting to manual. My mate had one of these years ago, and I thought it suited the car to be auto in the same way that I think it suits the 928, but it wouldn't suit a Manta or 944.
Yeah it suits an auto, trouble is that autos of that era werent much good, or wont seem so now we are used to modern ones. Have seen a few things where people are converting to ZF 8 speeds, a guy in the US has done a series 3 Jaguar XJ.

That does seem good value if its as good as it looks, the 24 valve conversion adds a cherry on top.

WPA

14,055 posts

139 months

Surely if you want a Monza GSE then you would want it standard, the market for a modified one must be tiny

cerb4.5lee

42,307 posts

205 months

I'd prefer a manual, but that is still a lovely old thing though I reckon. The digital dash is super cool as well. cool

Augustus Windsock

3,740 posts

180 months

Puddenchucker said:
As this has the 24v engine from the Carlton, shouldn't the power be 204hp instead of the std 180hp in the advert?
You beat me to it: It should be 204 bhp.
Regarding the gearbox, I had a Senator 24v auto and although it suited it, the police versions we had were all manual, and felt a lot livelier for it.
As this is a ‘sports’ coupe I’d rather have it as a manual.
If it were mine, I’d have to change the stereo head unit, the wheels (possibly for Senator 24v alloys, or similar, but larger BBS items), and the gearbox.
It’s obviously been used as intended, but would it not benefit for a soda blast clean-up underneath?
Quite a lovely thing, and I’d probably rather daily this than a modern stbox…

gruppeb86

607 posts

38 months

The 'wheel swap' is awful.

Jon951

256 posts

212 months

Had 2 Monzas in my time - a white GSE and previously a what I think was known as the EC (in gold !) which was this same "facelifted" shape prior to the GSE upgrade. Lovely things and always wanted one with a 24v conversion !

Those wheels and steering wheel are pretty grim though and I don't think that blue suits it much, not sure that was an originally available colour either - recall GSE's being white, black, silver and metallic red but perhaps the blue was a seldom chosen option ?

I still hanker after a Vauxhall Royale Coupe for reasons I can't quite explain even to myself other than I remember seeing one in a Vauxhall car range booklet that the dealer's used to issue when I was a kid and being wowed by its bright blue velour interior ! wink

Edited by Jon951 on Monday 11th May 14:24

Andy86GT

926 posts

90 months

J4CKO said:
droopsnoot said:
Wasn't the Commodore GSE officially sold in the UK?

I disagree with the note about converting to manual. My mate had one of these years ago, and I thought it suited the car to be auto in the same way that I think it suits the 928, but it wouldn't suit a Manta or 944.
Yeah it suits an auto, trouble is that autos of that era werent much good, or wont seem so now we are used to modern ones. Have seen a few things where people are converting to ZF 8 speeds, a guy in the US has done a series 3 Jaguar XJ.

That does seem good value if its as good as it looks, the 24 valve conversion adds a cherry on top.
My mate had the earlier Monza that had the ubiquitous GM 3 speed slush-o-matic box. It did suit it as the car was very much a cruiser rather than a sports coupe. First auto I ever drove too. I think these later GSE models had the 4 speed with lock up in 4 but I might be mistaken.

Frimley111R

18,624 posts

259 months

Jon951 said:
Those wheels and steering wheel are pretty grim though and I don't think that blue suits it much, not sure that was an originally available colour either - recall GSE's being white, black, silver and metallic red but perhaps the blue was a seldom chosen option ?
Edited by Jon951 on Monday 11th May 14:24
The original wheel is on the boot and the spare is the original design too. All simple fixes.

asci.white

517 posts

98 months

I so loved the digital dash in my astra GTE.

A manual version of this would be cool.

Slowlygettingit

891 posts

66 months

As a very young kid I had a jigsaw with a monza on one side and a senator on the other.
I really only ever did the monza side and thought it was the business.

No idea where it came from, possibly a gizzit from the local dealer or the motor show. It would have been about the time Dad got a cavalier as his company car - the only time he strayed from fords before he became management and went oop market with Rovers and then oddly an integrale. Apparently the result of drinking at lunch time.

The wheel swap is terrible and on my jigsaw they were tasty 5 spoke alloys not the design as shown for the spare.
Now I’m thinking they haven’t aged so well.

J4CKO

46,136 posts

225 months

WPA said:
Surely if you want a Monza GSE then you would want it standard, the market for a modified one must be tiny
They werent a common sight in period, and there are only a handful in existence, if you want one guessing you cant be too picky, its a tiny market anyway.

The wheels can easily be changed or do you mean the market for one with a better, more powerful engine from the same manufacturer which is a logical upgrade ?

I think I could forgive it that.



Jon951

256 posts

212 months

Frimley111R said:
The original wheel is on the boot and the spare is the original design too. All simple fixes.
Yes agreed with the steering wheel. Not sure how easy it is to source 4 original alloys for these ? Not saying I wouldn't be tempted !!