Sold My Van: Now Getting Speeding Tickets/Fines etc
Discussion
All,
I recently sold my van to a trader. He did the DVLA new keeper transfer before driving off - I have email proof of this (2/5//26 and 14.31)
A few days later, I received a S72 NIP from Essex Police and PCN for the Dartford Crossing - Both of these occurred at 15.38.
I have sent a copy of the DVLA email to the Dart Charge (PCN) and they rejected my claim on the basis that DVLA has told them "I was the registered keeper at that time".
I called DVLA and they agreed a transfer of keeper did occur when I said it did, but it will take them up to 6 weeks to confirm this in writing.
Essex Police has only confirmed that I have responded to the NIP.
The new keeper is not answering the phone. Is there anything else I should be doing to protect myself here?
Thanks,
Rog
I recently sold my van to a trader. He did the DVLA new keeper transfer before driving off - I have email proof of this (2/5//26 and 14.31)
A few days later, I received a S72 NIP from Essex Police and PCN for the Dartford Crossing - Both of these occurred at 15.38.
I have sent a copy of the DVLA email to the Dart Charge (PCN) and they rejected my claim on the basis that DVLA has told them "I was the registered keeper at that time".
I called DVLA and they agreed a transfer of keeper did occur when I said it did, but it will take them up to 6 weeks to confirm this in writing.
Essex Police has only confirmed that I have responded to the NIP.
The new keeper is not answering the phone. Is there anything else I should be doing to protect myself here?
Thanks,
Rog
132 said:
All,
I recently sold my van to a trader. He did the DVLA new keeper transfer before driving off - I have email proof of this (2/5//26 and 14.31)
A few days later, I received a S72 NIP from Essex Police and PCN for the Dartford Crossing - Both of these occurred at 15.38.
I have sent a copy of the DVLA email to the Dart Charge (PCN) and they rejected my claim on the basis that DVLA has told them "I was the registered keeper at that time".
I called DVLA and they agreed a transfer of keeper did occur when I said it did, but it will take them up to 6 weeks to confirm this in writing.
Essex Police has only confirmed that I have responded to the NIP.
The new keeper is not answering the phone. Is there anything else I should be doing to protect myself here?
Thanks,
Rog
Simply send back the required paperwork to the Police with the buyers details, end of storyI recently sold my van to a trader. He did the DVLA new keeper transfer before driving off - I have email proof of this (2/5//26 and 14.31)
A few days later, I received a S72 NIP from Essex Police and PCN for the Dartford Crossing - Both of these occurred at 15.38.
I have sent a copy of the DVLA email to the Dart Charge (PCN) and they rejected my claim on the basis that DVLA has told them "I was the registered keeper at that time".
I called DVLA and they agreed a transfer of keeper did occur when I said it did, but it will take them up to 6 weeks to confirm this in writing.
Essex Police has only confirmed that I have responded to the NIP.
The new keeper is not answering the phone. Is there anything else I should be doing to protect myself here?
Thanks,
Rog
MustangGT said:
132 said:
All,
I recently sold my van to a trader. He did the DVLA new keeper transfer before driving off - I have email proof of this (2/5//26 and 14.31)
A few days later, I received a S72 NIP from Essex Police and PCN for the Dartford Crossing - Both of these occurred at 15.38.
I have sent a copy of the DVLA email to the Dart Charge (PCN) and they rejected my claim on the basis that DVLA has told them "I was the registered keeper at that time".
I called DVLA and they agreed a transfer of keeper did occur when I said it did, but it will take them up to 6 weeks to confirm this in writing.
Essex Police has only confirmed that I have responded to the NIP.
The new keeper is not answering the phone. Is there anything else I should be doing to protect myself here?
Thanks,
Rog
Simply send back the required paperwork to the Police with the buyers details, end of storyI recently sold my van to a trader. He did the DVLA new keeper transfer before driving off - I have email proof of this (2/5//26 and 14.31)
A few days later, I received a S72 NIP from Essex Police and PCN for the Dartford Crossing - Both of these occurred at 15.38.
I have sent a copy of the DVLA email to the Dart Charge (PCN) and they rejected my claim on the basis that DVLA has told them "I was the registered keeper at that time".
I called DVLA and they agreed a transfer of keeper did occur when I said it did, but it will take them up to 6 weeks to confirm this in writing.
Essex Police has only confirmed that I have responded to the NIP.
The new keeper is not answering the phone. Is there anything else I should be doing to protect myself here?
Thanks,
Rog
As you were not the keeper at the time of the offence under S172 your obligation is to give any information that is in your power to give which may help to identify the driver, so just do that and no more
The registered keeper hasn't changed - you are still the RK. Just because its "in trade", doesn't change the RK. So you'll get speeding fines etc until it comes out of trade and is registered with a new keeper etc.
Just keep filling in the info with the trader's details if/when you get S172s.
Just keep filling in the info with the trader's details if/when you get S172s.
132 said:
Yes, the NIP is for speeding (57mph in a 50 zone) - I have responded to say that there was a change of keeper, but they have not yet asked for evidence. I guess they will in due course.
Much appreciated
I've had this twice and never heard anything back. No request for evidence. Much appreciated
paul_c123 said:
The registered keeper hasn't changed - you are still the RK. Just because its "in trade", doesn't change the RK. So you'll get speeding fines etc until it comes out of trade and is registered with a new keeper etc.
Just keep filling in the info with the trader's details if/when you get S172s.
The OP might still be listed as the last RK, but they're no longer the keeper which is who S172 is framed at. Just keep filling in the info with the trader's details if/when you get S172s.
On the 172 return there should be a box to tick that says.
Driver
Register keeper
Owner
Or similar.
Tick the relevant box (owner) and put the traders details in. Send it back. You could send a print out of the email as well if you wanted.
PNC wouldn't be updated at the same time the DVLA send that email.
Driver
Register keeper
Owner
Or similar.
Tick the relevant box (owner) and put the traders details in. Send it back. You could send a print out of the email as well if you wanted.
PNC wouldn't be updated at the same time the DVLA send that email.
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