Talex or the Fuzion (Cash Machine Detectors)??
Talex or the Fuzion (Cash Machine Detectors)??
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speed.demon

Original Poster:

48 posts

282 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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Prices are comming down and i have decided to buy...
But after reading all about the Talex GPS camera detector I can find nothing much on the Fuzion..

I prefer the look of the Talex but at the end of the day its what it can do and how well...

So im hoping someone out there might have seen or use one or the other even both and could give me an insight into how good it was or wasn't...

Regards

Speed.Demon

MR2Mike

20,143 posts

285 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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The Fuzion is quite a bit cheaper (£99 vs £149) and they seem to be offering free updates for life which is a strong incentive to buy one. The Talex comes with a 6 month subscription, an extra 12months is £29. Not an outrageous amount by any standards, but free is better (if it's a sustainable business model).

www.micro-fuzion.co.uk/
www.talex.co.uk/

speed.demon

Original Poster:

48 posts

282 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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Do you know how often Fuzion updates its cameras??

and possible which is the best built of the two??

If I do go for the Fuzion when I buy I will proply go for the £149 version which includes radar, i mean hairdryer detectors with something like a 2mile pickup distance, i guess it will also pick up mobile vans??

thanks for the URL's by the way

havoc

33,447 posts

265 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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For starters I believe all hairdryers and many vans are now laser, so the only way to detect them is GPS on the location if it's a frequent spot.

As for which is better - which has the bigger database with the better maintenance procedures and the more frequent user-updates?

speed.demon

Original Poster:

48 posts

282 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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the hairdryer detectors fit to the front of the car and are Lazer Detectors not GPS based but i do not know which has the largest data base ,, but i would like to know.... and updates on the FUZION i have not yet found out from anyone,,, if u know please let us know and if you own one of them tell us more

regards speed.demon

gilbertd

744 posts

272 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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I enquired about the Fuzion a couple of months ago and Speedsafe (one of the suppliers) replied saying that internally, it is virtually identical to the Talex. I've had my Fuzion for a few weeks now and have no complaints whatsoever. I emailed Micro about one change that was made recently to the firmware and they told me that the database is updated daily. This isn't always obvious because the file date only shows the most recent firmware update, not the database update.

Obviously it can't warn about talivans as it has no laser detector, but the database does know about most of the usual haunts. The satellite aquisition time is very quick and it even works in my Peugeot 406 company car with metallised windscreen, it just takes slightly longer to aquire.

As the spec on the Fuzion and Talex are virtually identical, the difference in price and the free updates made the Fuzion the obvious choice for me.

speed.demon

Original Poster:

48 posts

282 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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Hi there Gilbertd,

thanks for your info it has helped me alot in my quest over which to buy...
the only thing to do now is decide if im going to take the Fuzion with the Lazer warning opt or not, i can see this being a handy tool to have...
do you have any thoughts on this.??

regards
speed.demon

gilbertd

744 posts

272 months

Saturday 15th October 2005
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Speed.demon YHM
and for the benefit of everyone else.....

thought the same, but in the end just went for the Fuzion on it's own. If the laser unit had sat on the top like on the Snooper I would probably have got it but figured that installing it next to the number plate was going to cause too much grief!
One thing that the website doesn't make clear is what
it displays while driving. It gives a constant readout of your actual speed (so you can see how much your speedo over-reads by) but reverts to a clock
when stationary. When you get within 350 yards of a camera you get a voice warning and it tells you what the speed limit is. If you are below the limit you get a pleasant chime and the display counts down the number of yards to the camera. As you pass the camera you get an all clear chime. If you are above the limit, instead of a pleasant chime you get a "warning,
slow down" announcement until you are below the limit while the display shows the countdown still. For known mobile spots it just warns you that you are approaching a possible camera location and the limit, the rest is up to you. It also warns about specs and announces as you enter and leave the zone. It has two modes, safe and camera. Safe warns you of cameras, mobile sites, schools and accident blackspots, camera only warns you of fixed and possible mobile cameras.

I reckon it's the best 99 quid I've spent in a long time. I can now concentrate on enjoying my driving rather than being on constant lookout for bloody yellow boxes at the side of the road!

havoc

33,447 posts

265 months

Saturday 15th October 2005
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That actually sounds pretty useful...and at £99 a lot better value than the Road Angel etc...

...but ultimately, the VFM of one of these is in the database...if that's inadequate, and you are placing reliance on it, then you could be setting yourself up for a fall.

One argument is "It's better than nothing", but the counter-argument is "If you don't have one you're probably more aware of your speed and looking out for cameras, vans, hairdryers etc...".

Dunno, undecided which way to go as yet...

gilbertd

744 posts

272 months

Saturday 15th October 2005
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I am still aware of my speed but find that I am now driving faster than I used to. I'm travelling at an appropriate speed for the road conditions and often find that I'm still travelling within the speed limit plus 10% plus 2. An actual 79 mph is a reading of nearly 90 on my speedo. Previously I would keep it down to 80 to be on the safe side. Interestingly, most people tend to drive around at about 65 on NSL dual carriageways. So without the camera detection, an accurate speed readout is useful on it's own. Nine tims out of ten, I find that I'm travelling faster than I would previously have done, but still under the limit when it does warn me of a camera.

havoc

33,447 posts

265 months

Saturday 15th October 2005
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gilbertd said:
An actual 79 mph is a reading of nearly 90 on my speedo.

That's a rough speedo! My last car read approx 1mph over per 30mph, and that was an older car design (c. 1993 launch I think, 1996/7 refresh)

gilbertd

744 posts

272 months

Saturday 15th October 2005
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All right, I'll put it another way. My speedo is in kms and reads up to 220 kph. Consequenly the numbers are a bit close together. I work on the principle that 112 kph is 70, and 128 is 80. 160 is a ton, so 90 is roughly between the last two. I've always regarded anything beyond 130ish kph is pushing my luck but bear in mind that every 5 kph is about the thickness of the needle!

What I've actually found is that 120 kph (75 mph) is actually 71, which seems pretty accurate to me. Get it up to a genuine 79 mph and the speedo is reading up around the 140 kph mark. So it isn't actually nearly 90, but it's getting there (anyway the important dial shows 3400 rpm so who cares what the other one says!).

>> Edited by gilbertd on Saturday 15th October 17:21

speed.demon

Original Poster:

48 posts

282 months

Sunday 16th October 2005
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i would also like to add to that that that mine is new out the box (the car) and it reads around 2 mph out, or over the speed limit...

But the main thing is, getting back to the FUZION with its FREE down loads is, from what i have heard so far is its the best for £99 and beats a lot of the more expencive on the market?? yes

any need to spend more money i ask??

please give your thoughts

and thanks to my friend Richard (above)

gilbertd

744 posts

272 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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I'm afraid I can't give any more advice. I've no experience of anything other than the Fuzion. I reckon it's good and worth the money, but it may be that if you spend a bit more you get a lot more. How it differs from the Talex I've no idea, I've never even seen one.

speed.demon

Original Poster:

48 posts

282 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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I went ahead and brought one today, without the opp Lazar att.... as i can not make my mind up about which Lazar detection is best, SpeedSafe have two that i was looking at, one that fits behind the front grill and is in two parts (ALSO WORKS AS A FRONT PARKING DEVICE) and the other was by road angle and sits on the front dash and will detect front and back lazar.... How well they work or not, can't say....

I Will get my Fuzion FZ1 from SPEEDSAFE on thursday so they tell me...... i will report on it as soon as i've given it a good run....

Blackspot Road Angle detection Device
If you have one or any other similar devices to go with a GPS system thats worth buying please let share your thoughts with all of us

speed.demon

Original Poster:

48 posts

282 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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I had a chance to test the Fuzion agaist the road angle the other day, and do you know when it comes to what the unit will do the fuzion wins hands down....
even to the point that it is more accarate and gives voice warnings just incase you missed what was written on the screen.....

Build quility is by a small margin the road angle though.....

price, need i say more £300.00 still in you're pocket sounds good, eh?

Jay GTi

1,026 posts

253 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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speed.demon said:
I had a chance to test the Fuzion agaist the road angle the other day, and do you know when it comes to what the unit will do the fuzion wins hands down....
even to the point that it is more accarate and gives voice warnings just incase you missed what was written on the screen.....

Build quility is by a small margin the road angle though.....

price, need i say more £300.00 still in you're pocket sounds good, eh?


It isn't too difficult to get a Road Angel for £200 though.

pentoman

4,835 posts

293 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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I'm totally new to these things, but they should make driving a little less stressful for those of us with a nervous disposition!

What do you get extra for your money in the £200-400 detectors?

Russell

dogwatch

6,383 posts

252 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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Over the years I have acquired a radar detector, GPS camera warning (Inforad) and finally a SatNav. Depending on what you pay you will get a mix of facilities. The camera detector picks up signals from Scameras OK but also bank security systems, pedestran crossing light units and so on. More expensive ones pick up lasers and some try to jam them. The Inforad doesn't have a readout but relies on loud beeping to warn if you are over limit near a scamera.
The more you pay the more facilities you get and the more the manufacturer tries to limit false alarms. So that i can see out of the windscreen i just use the Inforad and the satnav (which gives me GPS speed) but I am vulnerable to mobiles.

speed.demon

Original Poster:

48 posts

282 months

Friday 28th October 2005
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Yes mobiles are a pain but all else is ok as i am told by my fuzion what type of camera and what speed i am to keep under.....

Plus I get free downloads for life.. bargin!!


S.D