Do some companies just like being told to **** off?
Discussion
I'm getting more and more emails now which basically say
' Dear (insert first name) - this is my third time emailing/reaching out to you about your building rates/energy costs/phone contracts etc and you've not yet replied to me?
Please can you repsond with when we can arrange a short visit to discuss this further.
Yours - idiot in a cheap suit
Maybe its becauses i've got better things to do and i'm not being guilt tripped into losing my morning talking to a halfwit who not doubt thinks he can sign me up to some awful contract that will cost me a fortune and be managed by cretins.
Do these people actually think this type of language actually works... I guess they do, rant over.....Hot and bothered in Leicester
' Dear (insert first name) - this is my third time emailing/reaching out to you about your building rates/energy costs/phone contracts etc and you've not yet replied to me?
Please can you repsond with when we can arrange a short visit to discuss this further.
Yours - idiot in a cheap suit
Maybe its becauses i've got better things to do and i'm not being guilt tripped into losing my morning talking to a halfwit who not doubt thinks he can sign me up to some awful contract that will cost me a fortune and be managed by cretins.
Do these people actually think this type of language actually works... I guess they do, rant over.....Hot and bothered in Leicester
Edited by oddball1313 on Tuesday 26th May 19:29
Yes, sadly it must work on a small percentage.
As soon as they come back with a follow up message, I just block them permanently (easy to do on Mac / apple) so I never see an email ever again from them - they are delivered straight to the bin without even showing up in my inbox. Likely there's also a block option on PC email too.
This type of email has become more common unfortunately.
As soon as they come back with a follow up message, I just block them permanently (easy to do on Mac / apple) so I never see an email ever again from them - they are delivered straight to the bin without even showing up in my inbox. Likely there's also a block option on PC email too.
This type of email has become more common unfortunately.
"Just circling back to my previous email......"
"I guess you're busy right now....."
"I've been looking at your work which looks great, but....."
Etc.
Curse of the automated marketing systems.
A little while back, I received something like this that was precisely well timed offering a service that I actually needed so I replied to say that I'd be interest in having a chat. Not a dickie-bird. So I took childish delight in using the same tactic to elicit a repose....
"Just circling back to my previous email......"
"I guess you're busy right now....."
Someone did eventually respond and a meeting was set up. Ended up being some dude in Poland with next to zero understanding about the service he was supposedly providing (animation).
"I guess you're busy right now....."
"I've been looking at your work which looks great, but....."
Etc.
Curse of the automated marketing systems.
A little while back, I received something like this that was precisely well timed offering a service that I actually needed so I replied to say that I'd be interest in having a chat. Not a dickie-bird. So I took childish delight in using the same tactic to elicit a repose....
"Just circling back to my previous email......"
"I guess you're busy right now....."
Someone did eventually respond and a meeting was set up. Ended up being some dude in Poland with next to zero understanding about the service he was supposedly providing (animation).
Don't forget the wheeze that is "paid consultations", usually via a Linked In message
Which means we will offer you thruppence to download 30 years of your experience because our unnamed client (usually KPMG, McKinsey etc) has blagged a consulting job and knows f
k all but wants to charge their clients £££
Off you must fk
Which means we will offer you thruppence to download 30 years of your experience because our unnamed client (usually KPMG, McKinsey etc) has blagged a consulting job and knows f
k all but wants to charge their clients £££ Off you must f
k oddball1313 said:
Do these people actually think this type of language actually works... I guess they do, rant over.....Hot and bothered in Leicester
They've watched influencers tell them how to do it but they've all watched the same ones which is why they all sound the same. Like leaflet drops, or DM, etc they may get a small percentage who reply.Edited by oddball1313 on Tuesday 26th May 19:29
"I am yet to hear back, please respond"
"What did you think of my previous 35 emails"
"Just bringing this to the top of your inbox"
Just fk off, I'm certainly not putting my head above the parapet so right click "block" then "mark as spam" is my usual route but it doesn't stop them. Most of them don't have an unsubscribe link.
I get so many saying "we looked at your excellent website, but we noticed you don't appear to be maximising your SEO capabilities like your closest rivals"
Just fk right off.
Edit: the second I pressed send on this post... PING
"What did you think of my previous 35 emails"
"Just bringing this to the top of your inbox"
Just f
k off, I'm certainly not putting my head above the parapet so right click "block" then "mark as spam" is my usual route but it doesn't stop them. Most of them don't have an unsubscribe link.I get so many saying "we looked at your excellent website, but we noticed you don't appear to be maximising your SEO capabilities like your closest rivals"
Just f
k right off. Edit: the second I pressed send on this post... PING
I fully get it and ignore most of the ste I'm inundated with also.
However we're all trying to earn a living.... I sell a very specialized and technical type of component into industry, along with the development support that goes with it, and "cold outreach" (shudder) is sadly required. I don't like doing it really but how else are customers going to know about us/me?
I have a very long standing and highly profitable (mutually) customer from such an email 8 years ago. They rely on me heavily now.
There are companies out there that require what I sell. I am a salesman. It is my job to make such introductions (of course in a much more targeted and considered way)
How else can you do it?
Surely that's understandable.
te I'm inundated with also.However we're all trying to earn a living.... I sell a very specialized and technical type of component into industry, along with the development support that goes with it, and "cold outreach" (shudder) is sadly required. I don't like doing it really but how else are customers going to know about us/me?
I have a very long standing and highly profitable (mutually) customer from such an email 8 years ago. They rely on me heavily now.
There are companies out there that require what I sell. I am a salesman. It is my job to make such introductions (of course in a much more targeted and considered way)
How else can you do it?
Surely that's understandable.
Krhuangbin said:
I fully get it and ignore most of the ste I'm inundated with also.
However we're all trying to earn a living.... I sell a very specialized and technical type of component into industry, along with the development support that goes with it, and "cold outreach" (shudder) is sadly required. I don't like doing it really but how else are customers going to know about us/me?
I have a very long standing and highly profitable (mutually) customer from such an email 8 years ago. They rely on me heavily now.
There are companies out there that require what I sell. I am a salesman. It is my job to make such introductions (of course in a much more targeted and considered way)
How else can you do it?
Surely that's understandable.
Been there!te I'm inundated with also.However we're all trying to earn a living.... I sell a very specialized and technical type of component into industry, along with the development support that goes with it, and "cold outreach" (shudder) is sadly required. I don't like doing it really but how else are customers going to know about us/me?
I have a very long standing and highly profitable (mutually) customer from such an email 8 years ago. They rely on me heavily now.
There are companies out there that require what I sell. I am a salesman. It is my job to make such introductions (of course in a much more targeted and considered way)
How else can you do it?
Surely that's understandable.
I worked as a Print Rep for a couple of years, selling printing services to whoever wanted them. Finding whoever wanted them was a task.
I'd done a Marketing Degree so I initially dived into to planning SWOT analysis, audience segmentation strategies and the like. I quickly realised that there were not short-cuts, no strategies. Simply a case of getting hold of a trade directory, starting at A, picking up the phone and cracking. 100 calls would lead to three appointments would lead to one order.
There was one thing I did that worked remarkably well that I'm quite proud of.
I signed up to attend a two day residential course on Print Buying, pretending I was from a Graphic Design firm (which was only a half lie). My reasoning was that I'd spend time and make friends with potential clients. This I did. A few weeks later I'd call them and say that I've landed a great job at this print firm if they ever needed anything.... landed a good few decent orders and clients from that!
It does work for some, I'm sure, but unfortunately the majority of emails I get are not from salespeople working for a decent firm with decent offerings but foreign people buying lists from god knows where and using disposable email addresses. So blocking rarely works and there is no unsubscribe.
If I get a decent, clearly researched email with something I may actually need now or in the future then if goes into a folder for such a time.
Same with cold calls, I'll happily speak to someone doing an honest job with an honest offering and give them a chance if I like them, I've switched FX providers a couple of times due to this but I instantly write off any sneaky little tt that has lied to get past reception or is working from an auto-dialer.
When I occasionally do outreach, or get others to do it, we know who we are emailing or calling and we know why what we offer will benefit them.
Blanket spam is one of the most irritating things, one of my businesses is selling expensive equipment to dentists, I get multiple emails a day from web based email addresses telling me I have a great dental practice but they know from their extensive research in to "company name" that they can fill my diary with high quality patients just crying out for quality dental treatment that I so clearly offer.
If I get a decent, clearly researched email with something I may actually need now or in the future then if goes into a folder for such a time.
Same with cold calls, I'll happily speak to someone doing an honest job with an honest offering and give them a chance if I like them, I've switched FX providers a couple of times due to this but I instantly write off any sneaky little t
t that has lied to get past reception or is working from an auto-dialer.When I occasionally do outreach, or get others to do it, we know who we are emailing or calling and we know why what we offer will benefit them.
Blanket spam is one of the most irritating things, one of my businesses is selling expensive equipment to dentists, I get multiple emails a day from web based email addresses telling me I have a great dental practice but they know from their extensive research in to "company name" that they can fill my diary with high quality patients just crying out for quality dental treatment that I so clearly offer.
StevieBee said:
There was one thing I did that worked remarkably well that I'm quite proud of.
I signed up to attend a two day residential course on Print Buying, pretending I was from a Graphic Design firm (which was only a half lie). My reasoning was that I'd spend time and make friends with potential clients. This I did. A few weeks later I'd call them and say that I've landed a great job at this print firm if they ever needed anything.... landed a good few decent orders and clients from that!
That's smart, work smarter not harder.I signed up to attend a two day residential course on Print Buying, pretending I was from a Graphic Design firm (which was only a half lie). My reasoning was that I'd spend time and make friends with potential clients. This I did. A few weeks later I'd call them and say that I've landed a great job at this print firm if they ever needed anything.... landed a good few decent orders and clients from that!
In my first sales job, I sent out snail mail shots pre-screwed up with some info specific to their business with the opening line that I'd saved them the trouble of screwing it up and putting it in the bin. Surprising how many people reacted to that.
AB said:
StevieBee said:
There was one thing I did that worked remarkably well that I'm quite proud of.
I signed up to attend a two day residential course on Print Buying, pretending I was from a Graphic Design firm (which was only a half lie). My reasoning was that I'd spend time and make friends with potential clients. This I did. A few weeks later I'd call them and say that I've landed a great job at this print firm if they ever needed anything.... landed a good few decent orders and clients from that!
That's smart, work smarter not harder.I signed up to attend a two day residential course on Print Buying, pretending I was from a Graphic Design firm (which was only a half lie). My reasoning was that I'd spend time and make friends with potential clients. This I did. A few weeks later I'd call them and say that I've landed a great job at this print firm if they ever needed anything.... landed a good few decent orders and clients from that!
In my first sales job, I sent out snail mail shots pre-screwed up with some info specific to their business with the opening line that I'd saved them the trouble of screwing it up and putting it in the bin. Surprising how many people reacted to that.
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