Booing of charity walkers - what do we think?
Discussion
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/creplqjdxqxo
From the walkers' reaction, I've got some sympathy with those who were booing tbh. I know they'd done 3 peaks, but that's as nothing when compared to dragging a couple of sulky pre-teens up there
From the walkers' reaction, I've got some sympathy with those who were booing tbh. I know they'd done 3 peaks, but that's as nothing when compared to dragging a couple of sulky pre-teens up there
It's a mountain. Why would anyone queue to get to the summit? It's not a ride, or a bar - get to the top, hit the summit, walk back down. I don't blame them if they're doing the three peaks as a challenge.
However:
1. Why do the 3 peaks on a bank holiday Sunday when it will obviously be busiest. That's idiotic.
2. Why are people (i.e. other people not doing the 3 peaks) incapable of finding one of the many other hundreds of mountains to climb on a nice day? I could list umpteen off the top of my head where you would be the only person up there and have a much more enjoyable day.
This fascination with doing the most popular thing imaginable when the sun comes out really does baffle me. If it's 30deg out, you can guarantee that climbing Snowdon, or going to the beach, or visiting the Cotswolds etc will be ridicuously busy - think outside the box and go somewhere else.
However:
1. Why do the 3 peaks on a bank holiday Sunday when it will obviously be busiest. That's idiotic.
2. Why are people (i.e. other people not doing the 3 peaks) incapable of finding one of the many other hundreds of mountains to climb on a nice day? I could list umpteen off the top of my head where you would be the only person up there and have a much more enjoyable day.
This fascination with doing the most popular thing imaginable when the sun comes out really does baffle me. If it's 30deg out, you can guarantee that climbing Snowdon, or going to the beach, or visiting the Cotswolds etc will be ridicuously busy - think outside the box and go somewhere else.
The queues are because everyone wants to spend 5 mins getting the perfect photo for Insta, just find the whole thing weird. I've climbed lots of mountains and never felt a failure for not touching the actual trig point. In fact I've climbed Snowdon several times without touching it, does that mean I didn't complete the walk, do I care, no.
Nezquick said:
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I could list umpteen off the top of my head where you would be the only person up there and have a much more enjoyable day.
Don't tell him, Pike!I could list umpteen off the top of my head where you would be the only person up there and have a much more enjoyable day.
Snowdon's a sacrificial mountain: Train, caff, "challenge walks". The upside of the muppetry there is that the rest of Eryri gets largely left alone.
Last time I was there I had the summit entirely to myself for a good 15 minutes, but that was pre-Covid and very early.
I thought that's why they'd changed it's name- to confuse all the insta crowd?
I did the3 peaks 20 odd years ago. Tapping the trig all seems a bit special though: if you've got to the top, a few steps here or there doesn't really matter. It was a lot less busy though when I did it.
I also hate queue jumpers- the idea it's not policed meaning anyone can do as they please is distinctly un-gentlemenlike.
But so is booing- a tut, with a disappointed shake of the head would have been enough for me.
So all in all, the 3 peaker needs to wind it in: and accept that queuing is a sensible solution to give people a fair cracking at standing in front of a pile of stones (so they can look like all the other people who have stood in front of that pile of stones.)
I did the3 peaks 20 odd years ago. Tapping the trig all seems a bit special though: if you've got to the top, a few steps here or there doesn't really matter. It was a lot less busy though when I did it.
I also hate queue jumpers- the idea it's not policed meaning anyone can do as they please is distinctly un-gentlemenlike.
But so is booing- a tut, with a disappointed shake of the head would have been enough for me.
So all in all, the 3 peaker needs to wind it in: and accept that queuing is a sensible solution to give people a fair cracking at standing in front of a pile of stones (so they can look like all the other people who have stood in front of that pile of stones.)
silentbrown said:
Nezquick said:
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I could list umpteen off the top of my head where you would be the only person up there and have a much more enjoyable day.
Don't tell him, Pike!I could list umpteen off the top of my head where you would be the only person up there and have a much more enjoyable day.
Snowdon's a sacrificial mountain: Train, caff, "challenge walks". The upside of the muppetry there is that the rest of Eryri gets largely left alone.
Last time I was there I had the summit entirely to myself for a good 15 minutes, but that was pre-Covid and very early.
M.
I went up it a few years ago with my daughter and didn't bother with the queuing to climb up to the trig point, but i can understand why some people want to.
These two charity guys seem to realise that it is significant (they felt they had to do it to complete their walk), but for some reason feel that they are more special than the hundred-or-so people who were already there and should get a special pass to the top.
I'm hoping they were a bit tired and emotional (not a euphemism) when they were interviewed, otherwise they sound like pair of self-entitled dicks.
These two charity guys seem to realise that it is significant (they felt they had to do it to complete their walk), but for some reason feel that they are more special than the hundred-or-so people who were already there and should get a special pass to the top.
I'm hoping they were a bit tired and emotional (not a euphemism) when they were interviewed, otherwise they sound like pair of self-entitled dicks.
If you can get to the top another way, and without risking anybody's safety then crack on. I assume people were queuing to pose with the trig point like it's a supermarket Santa or something? When I hiked Ben Nevis years ago people got to the summit and had a wander, and then took pics at the trig point from all sides, without demanding exclusivity.
It's a bit like people queueing to get out of a platform at Waterloo station, if they were to complain when you walk down all the way down the side and just use an exit barrier at the next platform.
It's a bit like people queueing to get out of a platform at Waterloo station, if they were to complain when you walk down all the way down the side and just use an exit barrier at the next platform.
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