Lifting and moving some big stuff

[Lotobear]

Thoughts and suggestions on how to move these? - lintel is 250kg and the jambs are around 175kg.

We need to move them through a standard size external door and then erect them inside (it's a fireplace). I have a mobile 1 tonne engine crane to lift the lintel into position buy may hire a Geni lift. Its the moving bit that's exercising me.

We don't want to chip the stone - it's still a bit 'green' and quite easily damaged

[Lotobear]

Not sure how to post multiple pictures so they need to go through here:

[Lotobear]

..and be placed here:

[FlyVintage]

Depending upon the ground between where they are now and the house; I’d be employing a couple of car dollies/skates.

[Lotobear]

FlyVintage said:

Depending upon the ground between where they are now and the house; I d be employing a couple of car dollies/skates.

Yeah, I was thinking we might need something like a dolly with large squashy pnuematic tyres

[Lotobear]

Our of interest, why we decided to start again

[Snow and Rocks]

Any strong friends or neighbours you can rope in?

They're heavy but not ludicrously so - use straps to get a good grip and lift in short planned hops. Dolly or trolley where terrain allows.

[57Ford]

Perhaps an A-frame with a sliding block and tackle on a rolling carriage would get the front half into the doorway while you reposition and get another bite.
It looks like it would then skate into the house. You can buy little bogeys which will take 250kg each.

[paulwirral]

A pallet on wheels is what I’ve always used during my renovation, it brought all the steels up the drive and onto the site , also used it for the slate hearths for the fireplaces .
It’s not let me down yet and all I work with is myself , a trolley jack and a long bar .

[LRDefender]

Any friendly burly gentlemen local to you?

As above they aren’t super heavy and 3 or 4 pairs of hands shouldn’t be troubled by the objects.

Plentiful tea and biscuits are necessary with such endeavours obviously. Plus a couple of celebratory pints post installation.

[king arthur]

LRDefender said:

Any friendly burly gentlemen local to you?

As above they aren t super heavy and 3 or 4 pairs of hands shouldn t be troubled by the objects.

Plentiful tea and biscuits are necessary with such endeavours obviously. Plus a couple of celebratory pints post installation.

I'm not sure that getting four men to lift 250kg through a doorway isn't a recipe for disaster.

[Snow and Rocks]

king arthur said:

I'm not sure that getting four men to lift 250kg through a doorway isn't a recipe for disaster.

Hence the straps and small planned hops. Don't think 4 guys walking along carrying it, think each taking the strain and moving a couple of feet at a time only an inch or so off the ground. Reposition as necessary, rest and then go again. The straps mean you can lift safely without bending or struggling to grip.

Trolley obviously where you can.

[Lotobear]

Straps x 3 with lifting loops and 2 scaffold poles threaded through may just do it (stretcher like) - 2 men at each end (sorry, personnel). It's the narrow doorway that's the problem.

..the straps will crush the corners though so I may have to make a timber rig or use polystyrene packers to protect the stone.

I've put a call in to the guy who supplied my steel to see if I can borrow his bogie with squishy wheels - it's a 2 wheel jobbie but might just work and deal with the small steps and other minor obstacles that exist along the route.

I'm nervous as one false move and the stone will get damaged and it will be a focal point of the room.

[LRDefender]

king arthur said:

LRDefender said:

Any friendly burly gentlemen local to you?

As above they aren t super heavy and 3 or 4 pairs of hands shouldn t be troubled by the objects.

Plentiful tea and biscuits are necessary with such endeavours obviously. Plus a couple of celebratory pints post installation.

I'm not sure that getting four men to lift 250kg through a doorway isn't a recipe for disaster.

Tsk, how to tell me you're not the real King Arthur without actually saying you're not really the real King Arthur...

The real King Arthur wouldn't display such defeatism and meekness when such a task lay ahead, he would call upon a couple of stout yeoman and get on with the job. And once King Arthur had completed such a minor task he would have a plethora of fair maidens attend to his and his mens needs. This is the type of attitude that ensured Britain stayed free from tyranny for centuries and allowed us to conquer half the globe!!

A simple doorway should never stop a couple of burly chums..!!

[boyse7en]

Four of us with straps managed to get a Rayburn oven through a similar doorway without too much bother, and I reckon that must be more than 250kg.
We protected the floor with lengths of wood and old carpet and employed a "lift, shuffle 'n drop" method.

[LooneyTunes]

Rollers - fence posts (round ones obviously) work well for this - alternatively as already suggested dollies or lifting straps.
Whether you have steps to contend with and/or corners to turn will determine which is best.

We took out an Aga using rollers and it worked fine

[The Gauge]

LooneyTunes said:

Rollers - fence posts (round ones obviously) work well for this

You are a 2700 BC to 1500 BC Egyptian slave and I claim my £5

[Chumley.mouse]

Pallet truck and a couple of helpers.

[Wacky Racer]

Get three pieces of short scaffolding tube, and roll it along, taking one out and moving it as you go.

Tried and tested over 2000 years.

[bobtail4x4]

a mate had a similar problem,
he went to the local rugby club,
they lifted it in and put it in place no problem

ok it cost a few rounds of beers,