Howdens buy DIY kitchens
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fourstardan

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6,503 posts

173 months

Thursday 4th June
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Didn't see this yesterday.

End of an era for DIY'ers or will we still another one start up?

LooneyTunes

9,357 posts

187 months

Friday 5th June
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“Post completion DIY Kitchens will remain an online only business focused on non-trade customers and
will be operated separately from Howdens’ own much larger trade only business’”

Hopefully they don’t change anything/much.

Danns

501 posts

88 months

Friday 5th June
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Spent half a day at the rather fancy Witney show room a couple of weekends back.

Not sure if the ship has already sailed on not changing much - the prices compared to what I recall them being a few years back were in the realms of "how on earth can they justify that"

They are obviously doing very well, and fair enough if the market will tolerate such prices, perhaps I'm just a bit tight - at the end of the day it is just MFC.
Anything with a curve in it, ridiculously priced (just the carcasses - not the slightly more difficult to product doors)

Handmade Kitchens of Christchurch looks a much more appealing offer.

worldwidewebs

2,948 posts

279 months

Friday 5th June
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Danns said:
Handmade Kitchens of Christchurch looks a much more appealing offer.
That's who are doing our kitchen. Completely different level to DIY Kitchens, Howdens etc

alscar

9,539 posts

242 months

Friday 5th June
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Presumably both in quality and price.

theposhboy

116 posts

157 months

Friday 5th June
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I think it's at the point where you can get a kitchen made cheaper. We've just had a local cabinet maker/carpenter make our kitchen, everything exactly sized as we wanted basically no compromise and cost wise I was very happy. Local company did all the slate tops, uk made sink etc so could support who we wanted not just imported stuff thrown at us.

worldwidewebs

2,948 posts

279 months

Friday 5th June
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alscar said:
Presumably both in quality and price.
Similar price (HMKOC do 4 sales a year!) and far, far better quality

alscar

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242 months

Friday 5th June
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worldwidewebs said:
alscar said:
Presumably both in quality and price.
Similar price (HMKOC do 4 sales a year!) and far, far better quality
Interesting - thanks for the tip.

fourstardan

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6,503 posts

173 months

Friday 5th June
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I bought my kitchen about 8 years ago now. Better Kitchens was where I bought mine and DIY kitchens was appealing but up north so wasn't able to do a review in person.

Interesting I never knew about Christchurch kitchens, maybe as I've not been looking. They are 20 minutes away to me.

Crumpet

5,368 posts

209 months

Saturday 6th June
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worldwidewebs said:
Danns said:
Handmade Kitchens of Christchurch looks a much more appealing offer.
That's who are doing our kitchen. Completely different level to DIY Kitchens, Howdens etc
That’s who I used for ours. The customer service is top notch and no regrets.

I’m not sure it’s fair to say it’s a different level to DIY Kitchens, they’re different products really. It’s not like HKOC are high quality, because they’re not, but you do get totally custom units with the in-frame look for DIY prices. You’ve got ongoing maintenance with the HKOC units because the wood is very soft, so you’ll be painting and filling every couple of years if you’re hard on them.

I think I spent two months painting them as well, so they’re not a great solution for someone who needs their kitchen turning around in a few weeks. We were without the main kitchen for 11 months but I converted another room to a fully functioning kitchen so it wasn’t an issue.

Fastpedeller

4,330 posts

175 months

I've only just heard of Howdens buying DIY Kitchens. My experience of Howdens isn't good, I had a trade account and it really wasn't worth having because the 'starting price' for everything was sky-high.
Bought from DIY Kitchens when fitting our Daughter's kitchen. I wanted to modify some units - no problem with DIY, who supplied selected cabinets ready -assembled but unglued, the rest as usual came ready glued/assembled. Such service will. I'm sure. not continue with Howden.
DIY-Kitchens ...... A set price, good, honest price list and no BS. I can see this changing.
I thought I'd found the solution to the " we'll start at 20k for a small kitchen, so you end up paying 8k after we do the hard sell"
Daughters kitchen cost 3.2K from DIY with painted solid ash doors, 18mm carcases, blum fittings etc. Wickes started at 17k and would give her a special deal at 50% off - yeah right, and for foiled doors and self assembly.
I knew sensed someone would buy DIY (I would if I had the cash!), but shudder to think what will happen. I suspect the staff will notice some changes as well frown
Some will say it's progress.

Pheo

3,547 posts

231 months

Very different markets though - Howdens don’t do retail / diy really (you need an account) and aimed at fast turn around trade.

So maybe it’ll be diversification.

He says in hope…

curvature

564 posts

103 months

Saturday
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My business has an account at Howdens but I didn’t use them for my own kitchen.

As others have said I found a local company who made everything as we wanted for not a lot of money.

The problem I find with Howdens is that on every order there are bits missing and they don’t tell you. It’s only when you call them and they oh yes that will be here next week.

Jeremy-75qq8

1,741 posts

121 months

Saturday
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I've used a company called Units online for many years. I finally have a better range than DIY kitchens and I prefer their pricing

Promised Land

5,411 posts

238 months

Saturday
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curvature said:
The problem I find with Howdens is that on every order there are bits missing and they don t tell you. It s only when you call them and they oh yes that will be here next week.
Must be isolated incident then.

I have an account with them (2 in fact) and I’m usually in there 2-3 times a week buying materials, I fit anything between 4-14 kitchens a year.

Never any parts missing, only the odd damaged unit, door or panel but I give them a bell and if one isn’t in stock it’s there for me the next day.

From what I’ve been told by the manager, my kitchen designer or the staff on the counter it is staying 2 seperste companies.

Maybe they wanted to take on Wren with their sales to customers and not trade only?

Clues in the name really, DIY kitchens, so aimed at the DIYer not the trade. Time will tell if it stays like that.