RE: Audi S4 (B7) | Spotted
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Audi S4 (B7) | Spotted

4.2-litres, eight cylinders, three pedals, four Goodyears... and five grand?!


It probably won’t have escaped your attention that certain modern classic Audis have been increasing in value of late. As we move towards an electrified, more exclusive Audi Sport future - see the Nuvolari for proof - so those relatively simple performance cars of the past two decades become more coveted. The best examples of the B7 RS4, R8 V8 and original TT RS have all enjoyed some useful appreciation in recent years. 

Then there’s the poor old S4. It too has a V8, a manual gearbox and handsome looks, but remains at bargain basement levels. Good news for those after V8 swagger on the cheap, at least. We live in a time, remember, when even the C55 AMGs of the era are worth more than they have been for a long while. And they were never much loved; certainly not as much as E46 M3s - or even Imprezas and Evos - of the period. 

So why does the S4 remain available for so little money? The existence of the RS4 must play a part, because it was a much better supersaloon: cooler to look at, more exciting to drive, and faster. There’s the S5 to think about as well, packaging the same engine in a more stylish two-door body. The only thing better than a cheap manual V8, after all, is a cheap and suave manual V8. These are pricey cars to run as well, at an official 21mpg, with the complication of Quattro, and with a timing chain for the V8 that’s a big job to replace if needed. Audi’s parts supply rep isn’t the best, either, to put it politely. 

All of which has meant that plenty of these pretty cool old Audis have fallen into disrepair. Without the bump in value enjoyed by some similar cars, the money hasn’t been spent on upkeep. We’ve surely all seen our fair share of ropey V8 S4s in our time. But then there’s this one, which looks the very opposite of a tired example. And yet is still available for not much money - just £4,990, in fact. 

It’s been with the current owner for nine years, during which time it has passed every single MOT first time, without any advisory - bar just one. Mileage has increased steadily by just a few thousand each year. There’s said to be a full service history, four decent wheels sit on Goodyear Eagle F1 tyres and, bar a couple of scuffs, the exterior looks really smart. The interior wear looks better than average for more than 20 years of use. 

This S4 isn’t beyond improvement, of course, but don’t forget the important thing: £4,990. You’ll obviously want to check for any of those warning signs around chain replacement, and keep the kitty well topped up for any future big bills, but a lot of the signs here are good. As a pre-March 2006 car, too, there’s a £350 VED saving. Which will pay for… well, probably less than you’d think, but all savings sound good when it comes to V8 four-doors. There simply isn’t a cheaper way than the S4 into so much engine with a manual gearbox. They can’t stay cheap forever - can they?


SPECIFICATION | AUDI S4 (B6)

Engine: 4,163cc, V8
Transmission: 6-speed manual, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 344@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 302@3,500rpm
MPG: 21.2
CO2: 321g/km
Year registered: 2005
Recorded mileage: 98,000
Price new: c. £40k
Yours for: £4,990

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chirurgus

Original Poster:

480 posts

242 months

The plastic timing chain guides become embrittled with time. Replacing them with metal guides from the B7 RS4 requires removal of the engine. Not replacing them risks catastrophic engine failure. This is only a £5k car if the problem has been addressed by a previous owner.

cerb4.5lee

42,704 posts

206 months

A lot of car and engine there for the money, very nice.

Bluehorseshoe

27 posts

1 month

Both Jayemm and high peak have had these and noted cost of putting stuff right is huge plus parts are becoming scarce. But they are very handsome looking things

Walshenham

232 posts

194 months

I have a real soft spot for these, especially in estate form.

One of very few cars I would pick the autobox over the manual though. Ratios on the manual box are far too short.

SE2

425 posts

162 months

The Avus III is a beautiful alloy. Had my professional life gone in a different direction, I suspect I'd have replaced my 2.0T convertible with the S4 version. A high water mark for Audi as a whole, I feel.

Dr G

15,878 posts

268 months

chirurgus said:
The plastic timing chain guides become embrittled with time. Replacing them with metal guides from the B7 RS4 requires removal of the engine. Not replacing them risks catastrophic engine failure. This is only a £5k car if the problem has been addressed by a previous owner.
Quite a bit of personal experience with the later cars; I've a suspicion there's a period where the metal guides ran concurrently in FSI and port injected engines. Whether this as an early 2006 falls into that I'm not sure, and there doesn't seem to be a way to prove anything conclusively.

Colleague ran last one (07/56) up to ~125k miles on original chains that remained quiet. Current one only on 25k miles but same age, that's quiet too. Early cars, especially B6 it's a matter of when rather than if.

All of the 'A4' bits are cheap, and B6/7 as a chassis isn't awful to work on. V8 pretty squeezed in there and at times fixing things like oil leaks (and they do like an oil leak) is no fun at all.

J4CKO

46,329 posts

226 months

Bluehorseshoe said:
Both Jayemm and high peak have had these and noted cost of putting stuff right is huge plus parts are becoming scarce. But they are very handsome looking things
Yeah, all very well if you can spin a few videos off it, but for the rest of us, its a lot of liability, fuel cost for not that much performance. Which misses the point to a certain extent but 0 - 100 mph in 13 seconds, isnt slow but may feel a bit lethargic these days for a performance car.

Suspect these change hands for less than this in a lot of cases, unless really nice and well sorted.

66HFM

837 posts

51 months

That does look good value but as others have said the question around the timing chain need to be answered first.

I had a couple of original S3's ( T and 03 reg) and always saw these as the next step up although as an Avant, with a growing family I ended up buying an A4 Avant 2.0TFSi SE (220bhp), which fitted my needs well.

Is parts supply that bad or is it a case of replacing parts with used rather than new?

craig r

219 posts

189 months

Had an automatic one of these in the same colour - absolutely loved it!

As has been said, it is not budget friendly to run, every time mine went in for a service or anything I was presented with a bill for £1000! This was nearly 10 years ago mind. Still kept the thing for 7 years though!

Kawasicki

14,250 posts

261 months

SE2 said:
The Avus III is a beautiful alloy. Had my professional life gone in a different direction, I suspect I'd have replaced my 2.0T convertible with the S4 version. A high water mark for Audi as a whole, I feel.
Too many straight lines, looks like it was designed with minecraft!

GetCarter

30,968 posts

305 months

I could never get past the seats and pedal offset, otherwise a cracking car.

v8notbrave

346 posts

39 months

I'm a huge fan of these but no mention of chains means run away. That's a 5k bill alone, pay 6k for one with this done. Ads a month old tells u enough

disco666

588 posts

172 months

'passed every single MOT first time, without any advisory - bar just one.'
Every single one, except one! Impressive.

MDMA .

10,397 posts

127 months

Bork factor too high for me.

S600BSB

7,724 posts

132 months

I ran a cabriolet S4 for 7 years. It was fantastic and never missed a beat.

Angelo1985

750 posts

52 months

There’s one thing that keeps me away from Audis of this generation…and it’s the fact that the dash, steering wheel and instrumentation is the same between the a4 and the much cheaper a3. Come on!

Vsix and Vtec

1,369 posts

44 months

You'd be better off buying a Jaguar XJ with the 4.2 V8. More reliable, more comfortable and you won't get mistaken for being one "those" Audi drivers.

SE2

425 posts

162 months

Angelo1985 said:
There s one thing that keeps me away from Audis of this generation and it s the fact that the dash, steering wheel and instrumentation is the same between the a4 and the much cheaper a3. Come on!
That's why you get the convertible that had its own bespoke dashboard (and Seat considered nicer so used it for the Exeo.)

dukebox9reg

1,709 posts

174 months

Seeing how hard it is to get hold of bits for older warm/hot Audi's (watching TDC's RS6 build) I'd be concerned lol