Justice but not as you might imagine
Justice but not as you might imagine
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dukeboy749r

Original Poster:

3,387 posts

236 months

Yesterday (15:58)
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/czexkk6er48t

A 93-year-old former children's home manager who sexually abused children in his care for decades has been given an absolute discharge and sexual harm prevention order

Malcolm Phillips, who lives in Birmingham, carried out the abuse against four girls and two boys at Skircoat Lodge in Halifax between 1976 and 1994

He was deemed unfit to stand trial and a trial of facts was held on charges of rape, indecent assault and indecency with a child

At Bradford Crown Court, Judge Kirstie Watson said Phillips was a 'master manipulator' who committed 'vile abuse' - all from the BBC's News website.

I'm staggered and livid that we cannot simply throw someone like this in a very deep hole and forget about them.

Earthdweller

18,633 posts

152 months

Yesterday (16:07)
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dukeboy749r said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/czexkk6er48t


I'm staggered and livid that we cannot simply throw someone like this in a very deep hole and forget about them.
He's 93 very frail and physically very unwell with multiple serious medical conditions

The judge said imprisonment was not an option, presumably because the prison system cannot deal with his complex needs

We still have a duty of care to him regardless, it's basic humanity

MrBogSmith

5,725 posts

60 months

Yesterday (16:09)
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He was deemed unfit to stand trial so the judge has very few options.

Earthdweller said:
The judge said imprisonment was not an option, presumably because the prison system cannot deal with his complex needs.
It's not an option for a trial of facts.

Hospital order, supervision order or absolute discharge.

Arrivalist

2,793 posts

25 months

Yesterday (16:09)
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Earthdweller said:
We still have a duty of care to him regardless, it's basic humanity
Some of us might take issue with that in cases like this.

CMTMB

1,370 posts

21 months

Yesterday (16:14)
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Absolute discharge - "the court has decided not to impose a punishment because the experience of going to court has been punishment enough".

That will be a massive comfort to his victims.




Jasandjules

72,138 posts

255 months

Yesterday (16:24)
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Earthdweller said:
We still have a duty of care to him regardless, it's basic humanity
Some of us would prefer he was shot.....

KAgantua

5,125 posts

157 months

Yesterday (16:28)
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Woodchipper

phil4

1,615 posts

264 months

Yesterday (16:29)
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Doesn't explain why a Hospital order or supervision order weren't suitable.

Russet Grange

2,757 posts

52 months

Yesterday (16:32)
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I'm all for the deep hole and forget about them option.

boyse7en

8,064 posts

191 months

Yesterday (16:36)
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Jasandjules said:
Earthdweller said:
We still have a duty of care to him regardless, it's basic humanity
Some of us would prefer he was shot.....
Yeah, like that rapist who was released recently... Oh no!, it turns out it wasn't him that did the crime and he had been falsely imprisoned for 17 years.
Still, if a few innocent people are shot so society can get the bloody vengeance it desires, where's the harm eh?

butchstewie

65,251 posts

236 months

Yesterday (16:38)
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Incidentally on that one in a final insult to Malkinson the real rapist apparently got a shorter sentence than he did.

bmwmike

8,419 posts

134 months

Yesterday (16:38)
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KAgantua said:
Woodchipper
Feet first.


We're seemingly very soft on rapists in this country. See also the 3 rapists on trial recently - got off because (supposedly) low IQ.


Arrivalist

2,793 posts

25 months

Yesterday (16:40)
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butchstewie said:
Incidentally on that one in a final insult to Malkinson the real rapist apparently got a shorter sentence than he did.
And they say the law is an ass scratchchin

119

18,167 posts

62 months

Yesterday (16:42)
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KAgantua said:
Woodchipper
Now whilst this would be the preferred option, it does make a bally mess dear boy, and would take a long time to clean the machine.

Milkyway

13,018 posts

79 months

Yesterday (17:07)
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When the case is finally solved... but they are dead.
(Works both ways)

butchstewie

65,251 posts

236 months

Yesterday (17:10)
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Arrivalist said:
butchstewie said:
Incidentally on that one in a final insult to Malkinson the real rapist apparently got a shorter sentence than he did.
And they say the law is an ass scratchchin
Certainly was for that poor sod.

Should be thought provoking for some of the more foolish replies on this thread though I assume most of it is just normal internet hard man rubbish.

caziques

2,826 posts

194 months

Yesterday (22:15)
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Arrivalist said:
butchstewie said:
Incidentally on that one in a final insult to Malkinson the real rapist apparently got a shorter sentence than he did.
And they say the law is an ass scratchchin
Here's the problem - if you refuse to admit to a crime you didn't commit, you won't get let out on parole.

Yet some people still want a death penalty.

SS427 Camaro

8,186 posts

196 months

119 said:
KAgantua said:
Woodchipper
Now whilst this would be the preferred option, it does make a bally mess dear boy, and would take a long time to clean the machine.
AND if it were my old bought new Entec ( that was stolen Xmas 2010 ) it would be needing a new set of bearings lol