The optimal frozen sausages temperature?
The optimal frozen sausages temperature?
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TheAngryDog

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235 months

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Is -18.1 degrees C the optimal temperature for a frozen sausage, when planning to hammer into someones garden?

Sway

34,332 posts

220 months

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Ideally, I'd like -20°C.

It provides extra hardness for less mushrooming of the end hit with the hammer, whilst not trading that off against excessive brittleness that could lead to a porcine shard injury.

It's a fine balance, but as an aside I'm impressed with your freezer thermostat accuracy!

thebraketester

15,633 posts

164 months

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I would say so. As you approach 0K they tend to get quite brittle.

POIDH

3,305 posts

91 months

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It depends on the soil type you're inserting them into.

captain_cynic

16,561 posts

121 months

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You don't want it too cold, it'll shatter mid hammer.

Martin350

4,322 posts

221 months

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They might gain a few degrees in temperature during transportation between your freezer and the intended victim's lawn.
You don't want them to get too warm or the hammer will just mash them into a soggy, meaty splodge on the lawn and not achieve full penetration into the ground, so maybe go a little colder to allow for sausage thermal creep...

There's a lot to take into account before hammering sausages into lawns. scratchchin

miniman

29,635 posts

288 months

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Sway said:
Ideally, I'd like -20°C.

It provides extra hardness for less mushrooming of the end hit with the hammer, whilst not trading that off against excessive brittleness that could lead to a porcine shard injury.

It's a fine balance, but as an aside I'm impressed with your freezer thermostat accuracy!
Hammering the sausage directly? That’s a mug’s game my friend. You need a sacrificial black pudding slice.

Bright Halo

3,895 posts

261 months

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Before freezing ensure one end has been given a squeeze to make it a tad more pointy resulting in easier insertion.

Sway

34,332 posts

220 months

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miniman said:
Sway said:
Ideally, I'd like -20°C.

It provides extra hardness for less mushrooming of the end hit with the hammer, whilst not trading that off against excessive brittleness that could lead to a porcine shard injury.

It's a fine balance, but as an aside I'm impressed with your freezer thermostat accuracy!
Hammering the sausage directly? That s a mug s game my friend. You need a sacrificial black pudding slice.
Au contraire - the SBPS 'upgrade' is actually a downgrade, as you don't get the appropriate angle of deflection as the pork shaft enters the tilth. Further, for maximum 'somme recreation effect', you really want to recess the sausage below the surface of the soil, which a SBPS won't permit.

Don't listen to these new "frozen sausage coaches" that are trying to ride the bandwagon. They've not gone through the years of trial and error, nor any form of certification.

(certification available through Sway's Pork Sword Masters Academy Inc., all rights reserved)

loskie

6,919 posts

146 months

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I've been doing it all wrong. I thought it was hammering custard into the lawn.

Soloman Dodd

903 posts

68 months

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Use a garden dibbler first.

For council use a sausage gun is compulsory.

S2r

782 posts

104 months

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As a newbie to all this, should I be looking for something with a high meat content such as 'heck' or would something with a smaller percentage, say 'Richmond' be better? Other makes are available...

Also, should they be just pork or are other types more suitable, IE Cumberland? I expect the 'pork and apple ' type sausages introduce weak spots increasing the likelihood of breaking so have dismissed them.

Then I need to consider chipolata or normal fat sausage?

Finally, what would be the best hammer to reduce rounding on the top and ensure good penetration? Would a rubber mallet be better than say my claw hammer or do I need to buy something specific for the job??

Who knew this would be so complicated...

Jermy Claxon

3,320 posts

165 months

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I've 3D printed an adapter for a Makita 18V nailer to take Herta frankfurters. While not a sausage traditionally used in British lawns, I find the casings are smooth and balistically optimal for good penetration without predibbing. Also handy because they're sold in magazines of 10 which makes reloading faster.

Sway

34,332 posts

220 months

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S2r said:
As a newbie to all this, should I be looking for something with a high meat content such as 'heck' or would something with a smaller percentage, say 'Richmond' be better? Other makes are available...

Also, should they be just pork or are other types more suitable, IE Cumberland? I expect the 'pork and apple ' type sausages introduce weak spots increasing the likelihood of breaking so have dismissed them.

Then I need to consider chipolata or normal fat sausage?

Finally, what would be the best hammer to reduce rounding on the top and ensure good penetration? Would a rubber mallet be better than say my claw hammer or do I need to buy something specific for the job??

Who knew this would be so complicated...
There's many factors which are dependant on location, geology and target 'agent provocateur' animal that'll actually perform the artistic revenge act.

For example, more urban areas need to consider likely depth of soil and the omnivorous nature of target species (rats and foxes). Rural is more complex, as you could be aiming for interaction with herbivores (rabbits), omnivores (foxes, gulls, etc.) or carnivores such as the holy grail - the TB infected Badger.

From here, meat content (or even in rare cases fully vegetarian - but never quorn or Linda McCartney), sausage length/thickness/fat content can all be determined.

Tools are generally more straightforward, with the only question being whether a dibbler is required - any self respecting member of the National Association of Sausage Revenge Agents (NASRA) would have one in their standard toolkit as standard just in case. Rubber mallet for initial insertion, once over 90% inserted there's sufficient lateral support to use almost anything (I'm old school and go with a sawn off broomhandle - but the plod really frown upon these) to get the below surface insertion depth required.

Blockbuster

259 posts

87 months

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Jermy Claxon said:
I've 3D printed an adapter for a Makita 18V nailer to take Herta frankfurters. While not a sausage traditionally used in British lawns, I find the casings are smooth and balistically optimal for good penetration without predibbing. Also handy because they're sold in magazines of 10 which makes reloading faster.
Honestly, I would love it if Colin Furze could knock together some sort of automatic sausage hammering machine 😂

Sway

34,332 posts

220 months

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Some of us prefer the traditional methods, and feel these newfangled technologies are removing the time served experience of a skilled NASRA agent.

Jermy Claxon

3,320 posts

165 months

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The Makita is handy, but please don't misunderstand, I wouldn't use anything less than locally-sourced butchers bangers, pre-shaped and -20 (storage, -18 on site) for a detatched house. But when you're doing 3 or 4 terraced council lawns in a night, the automation really helps.

Did a Grade II listed tennis lawn last month, venison, really nice job. But never again, the effing paperwork...

miniman

29,635 posts

288 months

Wednesday
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Sway said:
miniman said:
Sway said:
Ideally, I'd like -20°C.

It provides extra hardness for less mushrooming of the end hit with the hammer, whilst not trading that off against excessive brittleness that could lead to a porcine shard injury.

It's a fine balance, but as an aside I'm impressed with your freezer thermostat accuracy!
Hammering the sausage directly? That s a mug s game my friend. You need a sacrificial black pudding slice.
Au contraire - the SBPS 'upgrade' is actually a downgrade, as you don't get the appropriate angle of deflection as the pork shaft enters the tilth. Further, for maximum 'somme recreation effect', you really want to recess the sausage below the surface of the soil, which a SBPS won't permit.

Don't listen to these new "frozen sausage coaches" that are trying to ride the bandwagon. They've not gone through the years of trial and error, nor any form of certification.

(certification available through Sway's Pork Sword Masters Academy Inc., all rights reserved)
I feel ashamed for not sufficiently considering the wider implications of the SBPS and will publicly commit to reviewing my methodology.

paua

8,276 posts

169 months

Wednesday
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This is all you need - https://www.turnertoolhire.com/product/hand-auger-...

No need for a hammer at all & your sausage of choice needn't be totally frozen, at all.
Best of all, no grass stain evidence on your knees.
14 times as fast, too.

Jermy Claxon

3,320 posts

165 months

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You'll never get a secure fit with that. It'll be like a wizard's sleeve!


Unless you're getting custom 6" casings filled? Or are you backfiling and compacting?