Used EV options
Discussion
I’m juggling the below used options:
IX3 M Sport Pro (2023/2024)
IX XDrive 40 (2024) with comfort park
The other option is a new model Y premium RWD. Top 2 would be outright purchases and model Y more likely salary sacrifice.
I’m not looking to discuss the financial implications and understand insurance differences, but purely on experiences from people who have owned one or both.
Priorities would be comfort and ride for family of 4, quality infotainment system.
Coming from a Tucson so expecting all to be an upgrade.
Thanks in anticipation!
IX3 M Sport Pro (2023/2024)
IX XDrive 40 (2024) with comfort park
The other option is a new model Y premium RWD. Top 2 would be outright purchases and model Y more likely salary sacrifice.
I’m not looking to discuss the financial implications and understand insurance differences, but purely on experiences from people who have owned one or both.
Priorities would be comfort and ride for family of 4, quality infotainment system.
Coming from a Tucson so expecting all to be an upgrade.
Thanks in anticipation!
I had an iX40 from new for over 3 years.
Ride (unless at low speed/uneven surfaces/bumpy roads) was excellent. Low speed/bumpy road ride was not as absorbent as you would expect, you could literally feel every bump on the road. Not uncomfortable per se, but firmer than you would expect. I had 22" wheels.
Comfort, space and refinement was exceptional. One of my friends sat in mine whilst we drove on the motorway, he has a 2023 Model Y, and his first comment was how isolated the cabin was from wind, road and tyre noise compared to his car.
Turning circle is the size of an oil tanker. You get used to it, but not ideal.
Bear in mind, the boot is small for the size of car, that's because of the space needed for the rear motor and the focus on passenger space.
Infotainment is functional. It's way behind anything half decent from Tesla etc, but it's competent. Driver assistance tech is brilliant. No false positives of the car deciding to emergency brake for no reason. Driving Assistant Professional makes motorway driving much less tiring.
I've gone for another iX, but with air suspension and rear wheel steering, again on 22" wheels, and those are the two options I wish my iX40 had, as I could not go back to driving an iX in the UK without them.
With air, the iX no longer has a lot of side to side motions on uneven surfaces, ride is way better, and the rear wheel steering makes daily driving way easier (and more fun as it's more agile)
Ride (unless at low speed/uneven surfaces/bumpy roads) was excellent. Low speed/bumpy road ride was not as absorbent as you would expect, you could literally feel every bump on the road. Not uncomfortable per se, but firmer than you would expect. I had 22" wheels.
Comfort, space and refinement was exceptional. One of my friends sat in mine whilst we drove on the motorway, he has a 2023 Model Y, and his first comment was how isolated the cabin was from wind, road and tyre noise compared to his car.
Turning circle is the size of an oil tanker. You get used to it, but not ideal.
Bear in mind, the boot is small for the size of car, that's because of the space needed for the rear motor and the focus on passenger space.
Infotainment is functional. It's way behind anything half decent from Tesla etc, but it's competent. Driver assistance tech is brilliant. No false positives of the car deciding to emergency brake for no reason. Driving Assistant Professional makes motorway driving much less tiring.
I've gone for another iX, but with air suspension and rear wheel steering, again on 22" wheels, and those are the two options I wish my iX40 had, as I could not go back to driving an iX in the UK without them.
With air, the iX no longer has a lot of side to side motions on uneven surfaces, ride is way better, and the rear wheel steering makes daily driving way easier (and more fun as it's more agile)
raspy said:
I had an iX40 from new for over 3 years.
Ride (unless at low speed/uneven surfaces/bumpy roads) was excellent. Low speed/bumpy road ride was not as absorbent as you would expect, you could literally feel every bump on the road. Not uncomfortable per se, but firmer than you would expect. I had 22" wheels.
Comfort, space and refinement was exceptional. One of my friends sat in mine whilst we drove on the motorway, he has a 2023 Model Y, and his first comment was how isolated the cabin was from wind, road and tyre noise compared to his car.
Turning circle is the size of an oil tanker. You get used to it, but not ideal.
Bear in mind, the boot is small for the size of car, that's because of the space needed for the rear motor and the focus on passenger space.
Infotainment is functional. It's way behind anything half decent from Tesla etc, but it's competent. Driver assistance tech is brilliant. No false positives of the car deciding to emergency brake for no reason. Driving Assistant Professional makes motorway driving much less tiring.
I've gone for another iX, but with air suspension and rear wheel steering, again on 22" wheels, and those are the two options I wish my iX40 had, as I could not go back to driving an iX in the UK without them.
With air, the iX no longer has a lot of side to side motions on uneven surfaces, ride is way better, and the rear wheel steering makes daily driving way easier (and more fun as it's more agile)
Exceptionally helpful, thank you. Did you go for the x40 second time around too?Ride (unless at low speed/uneven surfaces/bumpy roads) was excellent. Low speed/bumpy road ride was not as absorbent as you would expect, you could literally feel every bump on the road. Not uncomfortable per se, but firmer than you would expect. I had 22" wheels.
Comfort, space and refinement was exceptional. One of my friends sat in mine whilst we drove on the motorway, he has a 2023 Model Y, and his first comment was how isolated the cabin was from wind, road and tyre noise compared to his car.
Turning circle is the size of an oil tanker. You get used to it, but not ideal.
Bear in mind, the boot is small for the size of car, that's because of the space needed for the rear motor and the focus on passenger space.
Infotainment is functional. It's way behind anything half decent from Tesla etc, but it's competent. Driver assistance tech is brilliant. No false positives of the car deciding to emergency brake for no reason. Driving Assistant Professional makes motorway driving much less tiring.
I've gone for another iX, but with air suspension and rear wheel steering, again on 22" wheels, and those are the two options I wish my iX40 had, as I could not go back to driving an iX in the UK without them.
With air, the iX no longer has a lot of side to side motions on uneven surfaces, ride is way better, and the rear wheel steering makes daily driving way easier (and more fun as it's more agile)
Js734 said:
raspy said:
I had an iX40 from new for over 3 years.
Ride (unless at low speed/uneven surfaces/bumpy roads) was excellent. Low speed/bumpy road ride was not as absorbent as you would expect, you could literally feel every bump on the road. Not uncomfortable per se, but firmer than you would expect. I had 22" wheels.
Comfort, space and refinement was exceptional. One of my friends sat in mine whilst we drove on the motorway, he has a 2023 Model Y, and his first comment was how isolated the cabin was from wind, road and tyre noise compared to his car.
Turning circle is the size of an oil tanker. You get used to it, but not ideal.
Bear in mind, the boot is small for the size of car, that's because of the space needed for the rear motor and the focus on passenger space.
Infotainment is functional. It's way behind anything half decent from Tesla etc, but it's competent. Driver assistance tech is brilliant. No false positives of the car deciding to emergency brake for no reason. Driving Assistant Professional makes motorway driving much less tiring.
I've gone for another iX, but with air suspension and rear wheel steering, again on 22" wheels, and those are the two options I wish my iX40 had, as I could not go back to driving an iX in the UK without them.
With air, the iX no longer has a lot of side to side motions on uneven surfaces, ride is way better, and the rear wheel steering makes daily driving way easier (and more fun as it's more agile)
Exceptionally helpful, thank you. Did you go for the x40 second time around too?Ride (unless at low speed/uneven surfaces/bumpy roads) was excellent. Low speed/bumpy road ride was not as absorbent as you would expect, you could literally feel every bump on the road. Not uncomfortable per se, but firmer than you would expect. I had 22" wheels.
Comfort, space and refinement was exceptional. One of my friends sat in mine whilst we drove on the motorway, he has a 2023 Model Y, and his first comment was how isolated the cabin was from wind, road and tyre noise compared to his car.
Turning circle is the size of an oil tanker. You get used to it, but not ideal.
Bear in mind, the boot is small for the size of car, that's because of the space needed for the rear motor and the focus on passenger space.
Infotainment is functional. It's way behind anything half decent from Tesla etc, but it's competent. Driver assistance tech is brilliant. No false positives of the car deciding to emergency brake for no reason. Driving Assistant Professional makes motorway driving much less tiring.
I've gone for another iX, but with air suspension and rear wheel steering, again on 22" wheels, and those are the two options I wish my iX40 had, as I could not go back to driving an iX in the UK without them.
With air, the iX no longer has a lot of side to side motions on uneven surfaces, ride is way better, and the rear wheel steering makes daily driving way easier (and more fun as it's more agile)
I’d argue a recent BMW with CarPlay and a physical idrive controller (plus they have the option of a touchscreen as well) is better tech wise than the Tesla native systems.
On the BMW Driving Ass Pro, it’s very good, it’ll be the same as my 2022 X5.
Just works, I’ve done thousands of miles in Europe with zero false braking, very very occasional loss of lane tracking (like maybe half a dozen times in 10k miles), and it’s super relaxing in traffic.
Better than 2020 era Tesla which to be fair will have improved massively, better than the Kia and Honda systems I’ve used and a gazillion miles away from the 2018 VW brake-for-a-crisp-packet system.
Model 3 / Y seats (admittedly a few years ago) I found to be short in the seat base and just not that comfy, one of the reasons we went for an older model S at the time. BMW Comfort seatage with multiple adjustments, cooling and massage is top notch.
On the BMW Driving Ass Pro, it’s very good, it’ll be the same as my 2022 X5.
Just works, I’ve done thousands of miles in Europe with zero false braking, very very occasional loss of lane tracking (like maybe half a dozen times in 10k miles), and it’s super relaxing in traffic.
Better than 2020 era Tesla which to be fair will have improved massively, better than the Kia and Honda systems I’ve used and a gazillion miles away from the 2018 VW brake-for-a-crisp-packet system.
Model 3 / Y seats (admittedly a few years ago) I found to be short in the seat base and just not that comfy, one of the reasons we went for an older model S at the time. BMW Comfort seatage with multiple adjustments, cooling and massage is top notch.
andy43 said:
I d argue a recent BMW with CarPlay and a physical idrive controller (plus they have the option of a touchscreen as well) is better tech wise than the Tesla native systems.
On the BMW Driving Ass Pro, it s very good, it ll be the same as my 2022 X5.
Just works, I ve done thousands of miles in Europe with zero false braking, very very occasional loss of lane tracking (like maybe half a dozen times in 10k miles), and it s super relaxing in traffic.
Better than 2020 era Tesla which to be fair will have improved massively, better than the Kia and Honda systems I ve used and a gazillion miles away from the 2018 VW brake-for-a-crisp-packet system.
Model 3 / Y seats (admittedly a few years ago) I found to be short in the seat base and just not that comfy, one of the reasons we went for an older model S at the time. BMW Comfort seatage with multiple adjustments, cooling and massage is top notch.
iX seats are not the same as other comfort seats like in the X5. They have far fewer adjustments, have short seat bottoms (with no extendable thigh support), and are generally more of a lounge seat rather than having any decent bolstering. They work fine for me, but complaints from some iX customers led BMW to overhaul the seats with LCI update on the iX with a longer seat base (still no extendable thigh support) and much more bolstering.On the BMW Driving Ass Pro, it s very good, it ll be the same as my 2022 X5.
Just works, I ve done thousands of miles in Europe with zero false braking, very very occasional loss of lane tracking (like maybe half a dozen times in 10k miles), and it s super relaxing in traffic.
Better than 2020 era Tesla which to be fair will have improved massively, better than the Kia and Honda systems I ve used and a gazillion miles away from the 2018 VW brake-for-a-crisp-packet system.
Model 3 / Y seats (admittedly a few years ago) I found to be short in the seat base and just not that comfy, one of the reasons we went for an older model S at the time. BMW Comfort seatage with multiple adjustments, cooling and massage is top notch.
The massage function on iX seats is pretty rudimentary too (when you compare with what's possible in other cars at that price point) - it's just the lumbar rolling up and down.
I rarely use the touchscreen/idrive controller when driving in the iX. Whilst on the move, I tend to use gesture control, voice control and steering wheel buttons.
andy43 said:
I d argue a recent BMW with CarPlay and a physical idrive controller (plus they have the option of a touchscreen as well) is better tech wise than the Tesla native systems.
On the BMW Driving Ass Pro, it s very good, it ll be the same as my 2022 X5.
Just works, I ve done thousands of miles in Europe with zero false braking, very very occasional loss of lane tracking (like maybe half a dozen times in 10k miles), and it s super relaxing in traffic.
Better than 2020 era Tesla which to be fair will have improved massively, better than the Kia and Honda systems I ve used and a gazillion miles away from the 2018 VW brake-for-a-crisp-packet system.
Model 3 / Y seats (admittedly a few years ago) I found to be short in the seat base and just not that comfy, one of the reasons we went for an older model S at the time. BMW Comfort seatage with multiple adjustments, cooling and massage is top notch.
Thanks for this. Think seat/thigh support is still very much an issue on the Y with the exception of the performance unfortunately. On the BMW Driving Ass Pro, it s very good, it ll be the same as my 2022 X5.
Just works, I ve done thousands of miles in Europe with zero false braking, very very occasional loss of lane tracking (like maybe half a dozen times in 10k miles), and it s super relaxing in traffic.
Better than 2020 era Tesla which to be fair will have improved massively, better than the Kia and Honda systems I ve used and a gazillion miles away from the 2018 VW brake-for-a-crisp-packet system.
Model 3 / Y seats (admittedly a few years ago) I found to be short in the seat base and just not that comfy, one of the reasons we went for an older model S at the time. BMW Comfort seatage with multiple adjustments, cooling and massage is top notch.
If it was the AWD LR version then I'd have said tesla without a doubt.
The ix has a nicer interior and softer ride, but the media system and app is 5 years ahead on the tesla. Sentry system is fantastic. Plus no stupid 12v battery which just isn't suitable on EVs and will cause all sorts of issues as it starts to fail. However the standard tesla has a worse sound system compared to the LR and performance if that matters.
The ix has a nicer interior and softer ride, but the media system and app is 5 years ahead on the tesla. Sentry system is fantastic. Plus no stupid 12v battery which just isn't suitable on EVs and will cause all sorts of issues as it starts to fail. However the standard tesla has a worse sound system compared to the LR and performance if that matters.
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