Harrow Council Enforcement Officers
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nikaiyo2

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5,923 posts

223 months

Monday 15th June
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https://youtu.be/vXzfFbkUHf4?si=K-_fhFlNxz2gc0lu

What is going on here then? Feels so wrong on so many levels.

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19,211 posts

64 months

Wills2

29,270 posts

203 months

Monday 15th June
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Fantastic what a marvellous example of modern multicultural Britain, they can probably go back to being full time criminals now.


Lotobear

8,992 posts

156 months

Monday 15th June
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Sadiq's goons

oyster

13,624 posts

276 months

Monday 15th June
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Wills2 said:
Fantastic what a marvellous example of modern multicultural Britain, they can probably go back to being full time criminals now.
Is that relevant?

BikeBikeBIke

14,372 posts

143 months

Monday 15th June
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There's that thing where the Teacher sits the bad kid next to the good kid in the hope the bad kid will improve under the good influence. In fact, typically, the bad kid encourages the good kid to join them shoplifting. "We" thought we could open the flood gates to the 3rd world and those people would adopt western attitudes. Instead all that's happened is that we're taking on 3rd world practices and attitudes.

For me the most shocking thing isn't the threats of violence. I'm sure nutters creep in to every organisation. It's the "messing with our money". Seems pretty clear to me corruption is normal and expected the way it would be in Russia or Nigeria or wherever. Just discussed as though it's the norm which Im sure it is.

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48,932 posts

224 months

Monday 15th June
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Lotobear said:
Sadiq's goons
I believe he was actually on the interview panel. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was related to them.

JMGS4

8,910 posts

298 months

Monday 15th June
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Firstly, why was a separate company "employed" to put thugs on the street and not council employees? Insurance/Pay?
Second, have they been fired and charged? just seen, fired... not charged? and if not why not????
Third, has the coucil been taken to task and charged?

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48,932 posts

224 months

Monday 15th June
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JMGS4 said:
Firstly, why was a separate company "employed" to put thugs on the street and not council employees? Insurance/Pay?
Second, have they been fired and charged?
1. It s cheaper.

2. I assume the person they threatened would need to lodge a complaint with the police?

3. Why would an Employer be charged if their Employee breaks the law? ETA they’re not actually council employees in any case.

JuanCarlosFandango

9,700 posts

99 months

Monday 15th June
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I'm sure it is just an isolated incident of a couple of bad apples losing their temper. Perhaps when provoked by some racist YouTuber.

Absolutely nothing to do with degenerate scum bags importing the backwards attitudes and habits of some of the worst places in the world.

Anyway, the curry is nice.

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48,932 posts

224 months

Monday 15th June
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BikeBikeBIke said:
There's that thing where the Teacher sits the bad kid next to the good kid in the hope the bad kid will improve under the good influence. In fact, typically, the bad kid encourages the good kid to join them shoplifting. "We" thought we could open the flood gates to the 3rd world and those people would adopt western attitudes. Instead all that's happened is that we're taking on 3rd world practices and attitudes.

For me the most shocking thing isn't the threats of violence. I'm sure nutters creep in to every organisation. It's the "messing with our money". Seems pretty clear to me corruption is normal and expected the way it would be in Russia or Nigeria or wherever. Just discussed as though it's the norm which Im sure it is.
Just out of curiosity (and admittedly I've not watched the whole video) what aspect of their behaviour/attitude is unique to "the 3rd world"? From what I've seen their behaviour is no different to what you'll see from scummy people all over the Uk regardless of colour, race, ethnicity..

valiant

13,975 posts

188 months

Monday 15th June
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Lotobear said:
Sadiq's goons
How so?

s1962a

7,685 posts

190 months

Monday 15th June
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Countdown said:
JMGS4 said:
Firstly, why was a separate company "employed" to put thugs on the street and not council employees? Insurance/Pay?
Second, have they been fired and charged?
1. It s cheaper.

2. I assume the person they threatened would need to lodge a complaint with the police?

3. Why would an Employer be charged if their Employee breaks the law? ETA they re not actually council employees in any case.
How did these tts make it through the interview stages? It must be pretty lax in that company.

sparta6

5,338 posts

128 months

Monday 15th June
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Countdown said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
There's that thing where the Teacher sits the bad kid next to the good kid in the hope the bad kid will improve under the good influence. In fact, typically, the bad kid encourages the good kid to join them shoplifting. "We" thought we could open the flood gates to the 3rd world and those people would adopt western attitudes. Instead all that's happened is that we're taking on 3rd world practices and attitudes.

For me the most shocking thing isn't the threats of violence. I'm sure nutters creep in to every organisation. It's the "messing with our money". Seems pretty clear to me corruption is normal and expected the way it would be in Russia or Nigeria or wherever. Just discussed as though it's the norm which Im sure it is.
Just out of curiosity (and admittedly I've not watched the whole video) what aspect of their behaviour/attitude is unique to "the 3rd world"? From what I've seen their behaviour is no different to what you'll see from scummy people all over the Uk regardless of colour, race, ethnicity..
They seem very angry and disrespectful, while wearing council uniform.

Public servants with good etiquette is important, no ?

BikeBikeBIke

14,372 posts

143 months

Monday 15th June
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Countdown said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
There's that thing where the Teacher sits the bad kid next to the good kid in the hope the bad kid will improve under the good influence. In fact, typically, the bad kid encourages the good kid to join them shoplifting. "We" thought we could open the flood gates to the 3rd world and those people would adopt western attitudes. Instead all that's happened is that we're taking on 3rd world practices and attitudes.

For me the most shocking thing isn't the threats of violence. I'm sure nutters creep in to every organisation. It's the "messing with our money". Seems pretty clear to me corruption is normal and expected the way it would be in Russia or Nigeria or wherever. Just discussed as though it's the norm which Im sure it is.
Just out of curiosity (and admittedly I've not watched the whole video) what aspect of their behaviour/attitude is unique to "the 3rd world"?
See second paragraph.

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48,932 posts

224 months

Monday 15th June
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BikeBikeBIke said:
Countdown said:
BikeBikeBIke said:
There's that thing where the Teacher sits the bad kid next to the good kid in the hope the bad kid will improve under the good influence. In fact, typically, the bad kid encourages the good kid to join them shoplifting. "We" thought we could open the flood gates to the 3rd world and those people would adopt western attitudes. Instead all that's happened is that we're taking on 3rd world practices and attitudes.

For me the most shocking thing isn't the threats of violence. I'm sure nutters creep in to every organisation. It's the "messing with our money". Seems pretty clear to me corruption is normal and expected the way it would be in Russia or Nigeria or wherever. Just discussed as though it's the norm which Im sure it is.
Just out of curiosity (and admittedly I've not watched the whole video) what aspect of their behaviour/attitude is unique to "the 3rd world"?
See second paragraph.
Sorry if I'm missing something - what was it about their behaviour which suggests either Russian or Nigerian corruption as opposed to generic corruption? Both of the people in the video appear to be UK born and bred (certainly not Russian or Nigerian) so I'm struggling to see the link.

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sparta6 said:
They seem very angry and disrespectful, while wearing council uniform.

Public servants with good etiquette is important, no ?
Absolutely.

What's their behaviour got to do with "the 3rd world"? Is the 3rd world endemic with bad etiquette?

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Monday 15th June
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s1962a said:
Countdown said:
JMGS4 said:
Firstly, why was a separate company "employed" to put thugs on the street and not council employees? Insurance/Pay?
Second, have they been fired and charged?
1. It s cheaper.

2. I assume the person they threatened would need to lodge a complaint with the police?

3. Why would an Employer be charged if their Employee breaks the law? ETA they re not actually council employees in any case.
How did these tts make it through the interview stages? It must be pretty lax in that company.
It looks like a st job, probably with st pay. You get what you pay for, especially when you outsource to the cheapest bidder.

nikaiyo2

Original Poster:

5,923 posts

223 months

Monday 15th June
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Countdown said:
1. It s cheaper.

2. I assume the person they threatened would need to lodge a complaint with the police?

3. Why would an Employer be charged if their Employee breaks the law? ETA they re not actually council employees in any case.
That feels like such a public sector response. Nothing to see here, lessons will be learned. Not our fault. say some platitudes till the news cycle moves on, change? Nah. Actually do something about it? Dont be daft every one is working 3 in 5 and on a yogurt making course.

How on gods earth we have a situation where it is cheaper to employ minimum wage unskilled staff via a private company than employing direct.


cirian75

5,638 posts

261 months

Monday 15th June
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Kingdom Services, say no more, a well crooked firm.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jan/22/fi...