Putney Pusher

[Kwackersaki]

It seems a new suspect has been identified for almost pushing a lady under a bus in Putney. Can’t believe it’s 10yrs ago.

A little googling reveals who it might be.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/multi-millionaire-ba...

[BikeBikeBIke]

I hope they've got him, but given the 10 year gap and the fact this is the 5th guy they've had in the frame I'm not optimistic.

[Kwackersaki]

BikeBikeBIke said:

I hope they've got him, but given the 10 year gap and the fact this is the 5th guy they've had in the frame I'm not optimistic.

Yes, I’d be surprised if it leads to a charge but apparently they received new information and the guy does look a little like the admittedly grainy footage.

[oyster]

Not sure this can ever be proven as deliberate.

[ScotHill]

oyster said:

Not sure this can ever be proven as deliberate.

Unless that woman was generating a [i[tremendous[/i] amount of gravitational force, it's pretty clear the runner moved to his right and raised his arms up to her while there was tons of space on his left side. I've been running a lot over the last year and nothing anywhere like this has happened to me, you scan ahead and move so you're not running in anyone's path.

[fido]

I asked ChatGPT and the personality profile does match:- "Both corporate directors and military officers excel at extreme task-orientation, which amplifies the psychological concept of goal shielding. When running, the workout effectively becomes "the mission." A highly disciplined individual may exhibit severe attentional tunneling, classifying a pedestrian purely as an operational impediment to be bypassed, completely detached from the moral or social implications of pushing a stranger."

[butchstewie]

If that's the best quality image they've got how do you get past "wasn't there prove it" or is there more evidence than reported

[Leicester Loyal]

fido said:

I asked ChatGPT and the personality profile does match:- "Both corporate directors and military officers excel at extreme task-orientation, which amplifies the psychological concept of goal shielding. When running, the workout effectively becomes "the mission." A highly disciplined individual may exhibit severe attentional tunneling, classifying a pedestrian purely as an operational impediment to be bypassed, completely detached from the moral or social implications of pushing a stranger."

Case closed then!

butchstewie said:

If that's the best quality image they've got how do you get past "wasn't there prove it" or is there more evidence than reported

Someone probably grassed him up, if it is him.

[otolith]

fido said:

I asked ChatGPT and the personality profile does match:- "Both corporate directors and military officers excel at extreme task-orientation, which amplifies the psychological concept of goal shielding. When running, the workout effectively becomes "the mission." A highly disciplined individual may exhibit severe attentional tunneling, classifying a pedestrian purely as an operational impediment to be bypassed, completely detached from the moral or social implications of pushing a stranger."

What does it say about subclinical psychopathic traits?

[pghstochaj]

oyster said:

Not sure this can ever be proven as deliberate.

I think a jury would see the video and how he didn't stop afterwards as sufficient to make that determination.

[Kwackersaki]

pghstochaj said:

oyster said:

Not sure this can ever be proven as deliberate.

I think a jury would see the video and how he didn't stop afterwards as sufficient to make that determination.

Apparently a few minutes later he ran past again and the lady shouted after him but he carried on.

[CMTMB]

I always assumed the prick who did it was well protected and that's why nothing ever came of it.

[easytiger123]

Leicester Loyal said:

Someone probably grassed him up, if it is him.

Given the publicity the case attracted he must have been out of his mind telling anyone he was responsible, but that said it does seem as if you are most likely correct.

[MrBogSmith]

oyster said:

Not sure this can ever be proven as deliberate.

Doesn't need to be.

An assault can be reckless.

[Earthdweller]

I think ID will be problematic 10 years on

Unless there's a confession I'd think any prosecution case would be very weak

[Earthdweller]

MrBogSmith said:

oyster said:

Not sure this can ever be proven as deliberate.

Doesn't need to be.

An assault can be reckless.

He's been arrested on suspicion of intent to commit GBH .. that cannot be reckless only a deliberate act under S18 and S20 requires a serious injury for recklessness

I think they are pissing in the wind with that personally

Could the offender have timed the push to ensure there was a bus to go under, and set out with that intent, I doubt it somehow ?

How on they prove he set out with that intent after 10 years ?

The victim was pretty much unharmed, probably a common assault at most which is summary only and subject to statutory time limits so can't be preceded with

Yes it could have been fatal but what matters is the actual substantive injury if you can't prove an intent

[dukeboy749r]

Earthdweller said:

MrBogSmith said:

oyster said:

Not sure this can ever be proven as deliberate.

Doesn't need to be.

An assault can be reckless.

He's been arrested on suspicion of intent to commit GBH .. that cannot be reckless only a deliberate act under S18 and S20 requires a serious injury for recklessness

I think they are pissing in the wind with that personally

Could the offender have timed the push to ensure there was a bus to go under, and set out with that intent, I doubt it somehow ?

How on they prove he set out with that intent after 10 years ?

The victim was pretty much unharmed, probably a common assault at most which is summary only and subject to statutory time limits so can't be preceded with

Yes it could have been fatal but what matters is the actual substantive injury if you can't prove an intent

The perpetrator in question (if it is him) should face more than a slap on the wrist/common assault charge.

What a wker.

'He' (if it is him) didn't stop at either the time or on his return leg, running the other way over the bridge.

What a complete and utter C U next Tuesday.

[mac96]

Watching that video, it was within a second of being fatal. The bus driver 's reaction was excellent, he had very little time but avoided the pedestrian without piling into other vehicles on his offside. I hope he got the thanks he deserved.

As for the culprit, words fail me. Noticeable that he avoided barging into the man he passed first. Pathetic. I hope this is the right guy this time.

[Bright Halo]

mac96 said:

Watching that video, it was within a second of being fatal. The bus driver 's reaction was excellent, he had very little time but avoided the pedestrian without piling into other vehicles on his offside. I hope he got the thanks he deserved.

As for the culprit, words fail me. Noticeable that he avoided barging into the man he passed first. Pathetic. I hope this is the right guy this time.

+1 The bus drivers reaction was pretty incredible. He/She deserves some kind of recognition. Firstly to actually notice she was falling towards the bus and then to safely steer away was truly remarkable.

Edited by Bright Halo on Monday 15th June 19:10

[Yahonza]

Another plus point to the bus driver - who deserves a medal.
What sort of person does this? Maybe they need to spend some time amongst their own kind, although that won't change them not being wired up properly.