New car - £5,000
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LosingGrip

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8,810 posts

187 months

Tuesday 16th June
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Its possible that my car is going to be written off following driving over a fking massive pipe. It does mean I get to look at new cars which I always enjoy!

After some suggestions with the following criteria.

Automatic.
Five doors.
Decent leg room for all (Im 6ft 4, step son is nine but going to be tall. We cant use my partners VW Tiago as one has no leg room).
Ideally petrol- Ive had diesels since 2010. Whilst I do a far few miles (15,000 to 20,000) I'm thinking petrol might be better with prices.
Something with a bit of power. Its PH after all!

Ive had the following over the years.

BMW 320D (current)
BMW 330D
BMW 520D
BMW 528 x 2
VW Golf
Ford Mondeo ST (diesel)

I like a bigger car.

I've got a budget of £5,000.

I'm drawn to the 2.0 Ford S-Max for some stupid reason.

paul_c123

2,320 posts

21 months

Tuesday 16th June
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Pretty sure a Ford Mondeo or S-Max of that era will be a powershift, which ought to be avoided at all costs.

"Bit of power" - how much? Going for a performance model will mean you'll need to look at older, higher mileage cars which will be nearer their end of life. Having said that, £5k should still buy something reasonable.

LosingGrip

Original Poster:

8,810 posts

187 months

Tuesday 16th June
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I thought powershift rang a bell. I havent looked into them at all yet. Thats my plan for thursday.

Not sure about power. Something that will manage motorway speeds with ease. Fun down A and B roads on my way to work.

My 320 is about 180hp which is enough. I dont need huge power, but a lot more than my partners 1 litre stbox.

Mr Tidy

31,021 posts

155 months

Tuesday 16th June
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You have BMW 3 Series and 5 Series on your list already, but maybe a 3 Series GT would also work?

Dean4200GT

6,372 posts

273 months

Tuesday 16th June
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Pickle_Rick

808 posts

88 months

Tuesday 16th June
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Can you charge at home? At 20k miles for petrol assuming a generous 40mpg, that's £3600 just in fuel each year. Even assuming it has perfect reliability and just needs a couple of oil changes a year, that's still well over £10000.

You could pick up a high mile model 3 (batteries even on early cars will be good for 300k+ miles) for around £10k and still be far better off financially over 3 years, plus you'll have tons of leg room. Only issue is you'll find the wife will want it instead.

Edit, in fact if you're spending £300 a month in Petrol, this is almost a free car: nicked from the leasing thread...

https://www.richmondmotorgroup.com/hyundai/offers/...

At 9p a mile over 6k that's £381 a month, then say £30 a month in electricity.

Certainly worth running the numbers imo with a brand new car under warranty with no mot needed.

Edited by Pickle_Rick on Tuesday 16th June 23:12


Edited by Pickle_Rick on Tuesday 16th June 23:13

LosingGrip

Original Poster:

8,810 posts

187 months

Tuesday 16th June
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Sadly electric is not an option at the moment.

Paul_B

913 posts

204 months

Tuesday 16th June
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I've just bought a Seat Leon FR estate 1.8 petrol. 14 plate. Mine is a manual but they are mainly autos, they do 2 litre ones as well. Can't recommend them enough. Quick enough for a sensible daily, economical, comfy and look decent IMO. I gave a smidge over 5k.....

turbomoggie

345 posts

132 months

Tuesday 16th June
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How about an older Lexus RX400?

stevemcs

10,232 posts

121 months

Tuesday 16th June
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At that mileage I would not be too concerned about diesel.

I’d suggest an xf https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/227354739484?_skw=jagua...

CrippsCorner

3,369 posts

209 months

Wednesday 17th June
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I just watched this earlier...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH-uxUvO6Yg

His No.1 recommend car under £5k (is specifically referring to reliability on this video) is the Lexus IS 250

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202606153...

Currently 34 available under £5k on AutoTrader smile


andy118run

959 posts

234 months

Wednesday 17th June
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Not a great selection of S Max's around in the 5k bracket.

I've had an eye out for several months as I fancy one as a second car.

For 5k you are often looking at stuff around the 100k mile mark though you get the occasional private sale for less pounds or miles.

There was a nice looking white 2.0 ecoboost (they are all powershift) on 79k miles with a local dealer for 4995 recently but it sold in a week or so.

I had a 2.0tdci (163 bhp) with powershift for 3 years up to 75k miles which gave me no bother though the general advice on here and elsewhere is to avoid them.

The 2.2 diesel has a conventional auto, not the powershift, though finding a decent one of those for 5k is a challenge.

AnonSA

61 posts

34 months

Wednesday 17th June
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CrippsCorner said:
I just watched this earlier...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH-uxUvO6Yg

His No.1 recommend car under £5k (is specifically referring to reliability on this video) is the Lexus IS 250

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202606153...

Currently 34 available under £5k on AutoTrader smile

Great cars, be aware that pre 2008 are not E10 compatible. Only thing to really look for is rusted exhaust. If you do a search for carbon build up that’s largely irrelevant in the UK, wouldn’t worry about it.

You can’t buy a more reliable car of its type.

Don’t expect more than around 25 MPG in mixed driving.

ZX10R NIN

30,475 posts

153 months

Wednesday 17th June
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LosingGrip said:
Its possible that my car is going to be written off following driving over a fking massive pipe. It does mean I get to look at new cars which I always enjoy!

After some suggestions with the following criteria.

Automatic.
Five doors.
Decent leg room for all (Im 6ft 4, step son is nine but going to be tall. We cant use my partners VW Tiago as one has no leg room).
Ideally petrol- Ive had diesels since 2010. Whilst I do a far few miles (15,000 to 20,000) I'm thinking petrol might be better with prices.
Something with a bit of power. Its PH after all!

Ive had the following over the years.

BMW 320D (current)
BMW 330D
BMW 520D
BMW 528 x 2
VW Golf
Ford Mondeo ST (diesel)

I like a bigger car.

I've got a budget of £5,000.

I'm drawn to the 2.0 Ford S-Max for some stupid reason.
I'd avoid any dual clutch auto as they all have issues, also with your annual mileage a diesel really does suit your usage.

Infiniti M, these are e class in size, they come loaded with (you'll have to add android auto/Carplay) kit Heated/air cooled seats heated steering wheel as well as being ULEZ compliant:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202605122...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202605142...

Q70 Sport as above but better on the eye but it has the Mercedes 2.1d:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202605072...

EX:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202510287...

With your annual mileage even with the 20p difference you'll still be better off with a diesel.

508 Allure:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202605082...

Previous Gen Insignia SRI VX Line with a years AUC warranty:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202606022...

Non AUC:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202605232...

Elite Nav:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202606103...

E250:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202604291...

220:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202604181...



Matt_T

1,263 posts

102 months

Thursday 18th June
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Dean4200GT said:
That looks fabulous! Are the engines & drivetrain just generic GM/Vauxhall parts?

LosingGrip

Original Poster:

8,810 posts

187 months

Friday 19th June
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I really like the look of the Infiniti's above! Will look into them some more.

I also keep looking at X5s. I need someone to slap me. But I'm drawn to them. Do I need something that big? Nope. But do I want one? Yep.

Dean4200GT

6,372 posts

273 months

Friday 19th June
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Matt_T said:
Dean4200GT said:
That looks fabulous! Are the engines & drivetrain just generic GM/Vauxhall parts?
I think they're on the Vectra / Saab platform, but not sure if they shared any engines.

Ian Geary

5,557 posts

220 months

Friday 19th June
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My sis in law has an X5, circa 2013 with the 30d engine.

I had a bmw e61 2009. What comes to mind is the similar list of things that went wrong with them from 130,000 up to 160,000

- oil gaskets degrading
- coolant bottles splitting
- crank pulley divorcing itself from the crank shaft
- air suspension going wrong
- engine lights on regularly
- modules getting wet


The difference was I could diy but she would have to dig deep for a mechanic.

Lovely cars when working, but at £5k you are basically inheriting someone else's problems they no longer want to be responsible for (in my humble opinion)

The plus side is decent Internet support and parts availability - when I've had say Korean or usa cars there was so little out there.

ZX10R NIN

30,475 posts

153 months

Saturday 20th June
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LosingGrip said:
I really like the look of the Infiniti's above! Will look into them some more.

I also keep looking at X5s. I need someone to slap me. But I'm drawn to them. Do I need something that big? Nope. But do I want one? Yep.
If there's anything you'd like to know regarding those I've supplied 2-3 of every model 2.0 & above, so can give you a real world perspective of ownership.

On the M's the first one is the pick, if the wheels were silver it would present itself better.
The second M is almost top spec so you get lane assist rear blind & the superb Bose upgrade, I'd still buy the first one because you'll have 2-5 years of usage before you even have to start thinking about possible suspension refreshing.

The Q70's look fresher & are still a nice place to while away the miles the 2.1d isn't as smooth & effortless as the 3.0d's in the M/EX's but you'll get better mpg, if the first M wasn't for sale I'd be buying the Q70 Sport & adding a remap as they respond well to this & give better mpg.

The EX is a good car but the AWD hurts fuel economy & it doesn't have as many features as the M's all have bluetooth & bluetooth sreaming, the M/EX's also have a feature where they save your cd's to the internal hard drive as well as USB connection as standard


There's also the smaller Q50:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/327216935828?_skw=infin...

M with the Q70 wheels on:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202605232...

Edited by ZX10R NIN on Saturday 20th June 10:25

AddyT.

545 posts

121 months

Saturday 20th June
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Find a good Golf diesel.