Public charging... whilst towing?
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Theres a filter on a better route planning app for trailer friendly charging stations.
There do seem to be a few more popping up where the charger is in the middle of 2 end on bays. Although if the cars socket is on the front, these may be a bit if a stretch.
I tow a sailing dinghy and have arrived at some trailer friendly chargers and still needed to unhitch to fit without blocking the place up
There do seem to be a few more popping up where the charger is in the middle of 2 end on bays. Although if the cars socket is on the front, these may be a bit if a stretch.
I tow a sailing dinghy and have arrived at some trailer friendly chargers and still needed to unhitch to fit without blocking the place up
Will be hard going compared to the 330D, a good tool for the job.
How often will you need to charge?
Towing a caravan typically reduces an EV’s range by 30–50%, mainly because of the caravan’s aerodynamic drag rather than its weight. For an EV that normally manages 280 miles, you might realistically see 140–180 miles while towing.
Tips for UK trips
How often will you need to charge?
Towing a caravan typically reduces an EV’s range by 30–50%, mainly because of the caravan’s aerodynamic drag rather than its weight. For an EV that normally manages 280 miles, you might realistically see 140–180 miles while towing.
Tips for UK trips
- Start with a 100% charge from home.
- Plan charging stops every 100–150 miles rather than stretching the battery.
- Use apps such as ABRP (A Better Routeplanner), Zapmap or Electroverse to identify larger charging sites.
- If possible, book campsites with dedicated EV chargers.
I’ve used several Fastned drive-thru chargers. They’re not on motorways but generally on retail parks adjacent to motorway junctions so very convenient. Might be worth investigating if there any in a 100 mile radius of home, as that’s where you’ll need them.
I tow a camping trailer with my EV and never really have an issue but do investigate potential charging sites using Google Earth to check the configuration of chargers. For example, we go to North Wales a lot and there’s a huge station in Holywell that’s really easy to use with a trailer, despite it not being drive-thru.
I tow a camping trailer with my EV and never really have an issue but do investigate potential charging sites using Google Earth to check the configuration of chargers. For example, we go to North Wales a lot and there’s a huge station in Holywell that’s really easy to use with a trailer, despite it not being drive-thru.
JQ, what sort of range reduction do you see and what size trailer is it please? I see plenty of discussion around caravans but it’s hard to find real world trailer examples. We’ve got a double height Lider Alicante and I reckon if we could get approx 180 miles it may be OK. Any less would be too much hassle.
Thanks for the input all. I'll be looking for something that gives me as much range as possible.
But in every other respect, no. It'll cost less to run, cost nothing to service, no blown turbo, spun bearings, snapped timing chains etc. ICE cars make little sense anymore.
RotorRambler said:
Will be hard going compared to the 330D, a good tool for the job
Range wise, yes.But in every other respect, no. It'll cost less to run, cost nothing to service, no blown turbo, spun bearings, snapped timing chains etc. ICE cars make little sense anymore.
benny.c said:
JQ, what sort of range reduction do you see and what size trailer is it please? I see plenty of discussion around caravans but it s hard to find real world trailer examples. We ve got a double height Lider Alicante and I reckon if we could get approx 180 miles it may be OK. Any less would be too much hassle.
About 20%, but I do drive slower with the trailer because the charger provision is shocking in North Wales - tend to charge at Holywell then charge there again on the way home. It’s a single axel Daxara camping trailer that’s been extended vertically, sits just below the roof line of my car. I get the impression that it’s wind resistance that’s the killer rather than weight so would imagine a caravan would be much worse for economy. JQ said:
About 20%, but I do drive slower with the trailer because the charger provision is shocking in North Wales - tend to charge at Holywell then charge there again on the way home. It s a single axel Daxara camping trailer that s been extended vertically, sits just below the roof line of my car. I get the impression that it s wind resistance that s the killer rather than weight so would imagine a caravan would be much worse for economy.
Thanks, that’s better than I thought it would be. Our trailer sits just below the roof too so maybe it would be similar. It’s obviously hard to demo an EV with tow bar and trailer so it would be a bit of a risk buying without knowing the actual range. SchillingTwo said:
Ive never had any if those happen.
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EVs are objectively simpler and objectively more reliable. There's plenty of data to prove that. Educate yourself.
SchillingTwo said:
Do you not put any oil in your engines?
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Tracklover said:
Range wise, yes.
But in every other respect, no. It'll cost less to run, cost nothing to service, no blown turbo, spun bearings, snapped timing chains etc. ICE cars make little sense anymore.
If you're doing a lot of public charging whilst towing the those running costs are going to still be pretty high, and unless you're buying a Tesla there will still be servicing costs to consider. At an average cost of 80p kWh for rapid cnarging youll be paying 30-40p per mile, the equivalent of 18-20mpg in an ICE vehicle.But in every other respect, no. It'll cost less to run, cost nothing to service, no blown turbo, spun bearings, snapped timing chains etc. ICE cars make little sense anymore.
Love EV's as daily cars and have run them for 7 years now as suit our use case perfectly, but would be a little wary of doing so with your stated requirements.
Edited by SWoll on Saturday 4th July 20:42
The pace of EV development is strong and towing, in terms of range is now definitely feasible - in fact you'll struggle to find a more polite and capable towing vehicle than an AWD EV.
But the charging with a trailer thing... That's still tricky unless suitable bays exist along the routes you would need to charge.
It's not rocket science but I think it will take many more years before such charging bays are widely available. The early adopters will need to struggle to make it work to prove the demand for the masses later. Apart from anything else it's going to take many years for the diesel towing vehicles people already have to die off, before a market for charging EV tow vehicles really starts to open up.
But the OP can be one of those early adopters if they don't tow too often and they use routes that already have suitable bays.
But the charging with a trailer thing... That's still tricky unless suitable bays exist along the routes you would need to charge.
It's not rocket science but I think it will take many more years before such charging bays are widely available. The early adopters will need to struggle to make it work to prove the demand for the masses later. Apart from anything else it's going to take many years for the diesel towing vehicles people already have to die off, before a market for charging EV tow vehicles really starts to open up.
But the OP can be one of those early adopters if they don't tow too often and they use routes that already have suitable bays.
SWoll said:
If you're doing a lot of public charging whilst towing the those running costs are going to still be pretty high, and unless you're buying a Tesla there will still be servicing costs to consider. At an average cost of 80p kWh for rapid cnarging youll be paying 30-40p per mile, the equivalent of 18-20mpg in an ICE vehicle.
Love EV's as daily cars and have run them for 7 years now as suit our use case perfectly, but would be a little wary of doing so with your stated requirements.
My kia Sorento towing would average about 30p a mile on diesel at 1.75 a litre. Love EV's as daily cars and have run them for 7 years now as suit our use case perfectly, but would be a little wary of doing so with your stated requirements.
Edited by SWoll on Saturday 4th July 20:42
My Kia EV6 will average 2miles per kw towing.
I pay £50 a year for ionity membership that gets me 58 p per kw. So 29p a mile.
But I leave from home with a full battery charged at 20.5 p a kw. So first 100 miles is at 10p a mile.
Also I can sometimes charge on the three pin charger on site for free.
In Europe the financial saving will be greater as public chargers appear to be much cheaper and diesel more expensive than uk.
So overall in terms purely of the fuel bill I think the EV will work out cheaper.
The hassle will no doubt be unhitching to charge. But I think that will be offset by how nice it is towing with the EV6. We will see and I will be documenting how I get on, in my towing with an EV6 thread.
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