Formula 1, Rich Daddies indulging their spoilt sons?
Formula 1, Rich Daddies indulging their spoilt sons?
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RSstuff

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1,045 posts

42 months

Yesterday (17:31)
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It's always been the case that talent counts for little, if the car is off the pace. But with very well funded and supported Verstappen and now Antonelli running away with championships, what's the chance of the likes of Nigel Mansell and James Hunt getting to the top now?

Dynion Araf Uchaf

5,129 posts

250 months

Yesterday (17:59)
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It ll be difficult for Hunt as he died in 1993. Mansell I suspect has had his fill so would have no desire to return

richhead

3,142 posts

38 months

Yesterday (23:32)
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Talent does still count, but motorsport is very expensive more now than ever, even karting can be eye watering at the top levels.

miniman

29,729 posts

289 months

Yesterday (23:39)
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Take heart in the reality that limitless money cannot create talent, as ably demonstrated by the Strolls.

the-norseman

15,481 posts

198 months

Yesterday (23:41)
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RSstuff said:
It's always been the case that talent counts for little, if the car is off the pace. But with very well funded and supported Verstappen and now Antonelli running away with championships, what's the chance of the likes of Nigel Mansell and James Hunt getting to the top now?
That era of motorsport has long gone, but, Max is a talent. You only have to look at how he gets into other non F1 cars and beats their regular drivers to see that.

Its the likes of Stroll that need to foxtrot oscar.

CanAm

13,562 posts

299 months

Yesterday (23:42)
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
It ll be difficult for Hunt as he died in 1993. Mansell I suspect has had his fill so would have no desire to return
RSstuff did say "the likes of" Hunt and Mansell.....

coppice

9,640 posts

171 months

Let's not imagine that the likes of Moss , Hailwood , Von Trips , Hawthorn , Piquet and Senna came from the gutter. And tough guy impecunious racers like Hunt , Jones and Peterson got their breaks becaase rich men were able to support them , through sponsorship , personal endorsement or simply because a team owner saw ther potential and invested in it .F1 always cost a king's ransom , although it's far more expensive tnow han the glory days of 'Formula DFV ' in the 70s . But even that wasn't as cheap as some might think - yes, a DFV was 'only' £7500 in the early 70s but that was still five years or more wages for many ..

HardtopManual

2,870 posts

193 months

You couldn't have chosen two worse examples. Max is clearly incredibly talented and can be fast in anything. Kimi is currently beating a team mate who is a reasonably good example of a driver who didn't have multimillionaire parents.

You're not going to get self made drivers making it in F1 now. They come into the sport too young.

Evanivitch

26,159 posts

149 months

miniman said:
Take heart in the reality that limitless money cannot create talent, as ably demonstrated by the Strolls.
Lance Stroll is a decent driver. He's a better record in F1 than many before or after him.

He should never have been in F1 as long as he has been, and we know why that is. But he's sufficiently talented to have got there in the first place.

miniman

29,729 posts

289 months

Evanivitch said:
miniman said:
Take heart in the reality that limitless money cannot create talent, as ably demonstrated by the Strolls.
Lance Stroll is a decent driver. He's a better record in F1 than many before or after him.

He should never have been in F1 as long as he has been, and we know why that is. But he's sufficiently talented to have got there in the first place.
https://youtu.be/J8ZEra4u7pE