Need To Buy A New Torch Are Chinese Rechargeables Safe?
Need To Buy A New Torch Are Chinese Rechargeables Safe?
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Fat Old Sun

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92 posts

12 months

Sunday 5th July
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My previous torch Maglite style worked on duracells which was fine, they last a year and all was good and its big enough to use as a weapon if we get burglars.

Now totally lost it so looking at the market which seems flooded with makes I have never heard of and are made in China and have visions of recharging a Chinese model and seeing it explode etc, so would rather stick with 3 or 4 large Duracels.

Or am I worrying over nothing?

heisthegaffer

4,214 posts

226 months

Sunday 5th July
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I have a few Nebo torches which seem okay, mostly rechargeable.

Griffith4ever

6,702 posts

63 months

Sunday 5th July
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Bearing in mind pretty much everything is made in china, even if you bought it in a "UK" shop, yes, worry not.

Also remember that most "Chinese" battery fires you read about are / were hoverboard and scooter devices with BIG lithium batteries in harsh environments.

All of us flying big RC helis and the likes have sourced all our batteries from....China.

Lithium battery fire risk rises with battery size and most torches use a single small 18650 cell.

Edited by Griffith4ever on Sunday 5th July 13:34

WH16

8,242 posts

246 months

Sunday 5th July
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Griffith4ever said:
Bearing in mind pretty much everything is made in china, even if you bought it in a "UK" shop, yes, worry not.
There is a difference between made in China and made by China. Stick with the big names from a proper shop and you'll probably be fine. Buy some XXXYXYZIAISMSO Ali Express special and perhaps not.


Fat Old Sun

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92 posts

12 months

Sunday 5th July
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Ok thanks will trust in Amazon!

Bit of a minefiled looking though isn't it?....and some of the advertising for the million lumens "light up the moon" sounds unlikely! hehe

Griffith4ever

6,702 posts

63 months

Sunday 5th July
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WH16 said:
There is a difference between made in China and made by China. Stick with the big names from a proper shop and you'll probably be fine. Buy some XXXYXYZIAISMSO Ali Express special and perhaps not.
Perhaps not? They are all the same. The same cells, chargers, circuits.

My lion bike lamp
My carbon emtb
My toothbrush
My garden lights
My solar pond aerators
My phone
Your iphone
Etc etc

All made in china.
AliExpress is a drop shipper. That's it.

Buy st and you'll get st.

Charging 18650s isn't hard and china are the largest manufacturers by a large margin.

AliExpress absolutely sell some st. As do ebay sellers, and Amazon.

Buying "big brand". Name me a few and let's see how much of a price difference there is.

Griffith4ever

6,702 posts

63 months

Sunday 5th July
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Fat Old Sun said:
Ok thanks will trust in Amazon!

Bit of a minefiled looking though isn't it?....and some of the advertising for the million lumens "light up the moon" sounds unlikely! hehe
Most stuff on Amazon you'll find the exact same on AliExpress. Being on Amazon doesn't ="better". But, the aftercare is

ARH

1,940 posts

267 months

Sunday 5th July
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Griffith4ever said:
Fat Old Sun said:
Ok thanks will trust in Amazon!

Bit of a minefiled looking though isn't it?....and some of the advertising for the million lumens "light up the moon" sounds unlikely! hehe
Most stuff on Amazon you'll find the exact same on AliExpress. Being on Amazon doesn't ="better". But, the aftercare is
Aliexpress aftercare is as easy as amazon and far easier than eBay.

Aliexpress pay for your return postage to a UK site. If you parcel is not delivered they automatically refund after a certain time. They sell the very same staff as amazon and eBay. Most is delivered within 7 days, this is the only downside to amazon and often quicker than eBay

Fat Old Sun

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92 posts

12 months

Sunday 5th July
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Went for This One


Griffith4ever

6,702 posts

63 months

Sunday 5th July
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ARH said:
Griffith4ever said:
Fat Old Sun said:
Ok thanks will trust in Amazon!

Bit of a minefiled looking though isn't it?....and some of the advertising for the million lumens "light up the moon" sounds unlikely! hehe
Most stuff on Amazon you'll find the exact same on AliExpress. Being on Amazon doesn't ="better". But, the aftercare is
Aliexpress aftercare is as easy as amazon and far easier than eBay.

Aliexpress pay for your return postage to a UK site. If you parcel is not delivered they automatically refund after a certain time. They sell the very same staff as amazon and eBay. Most is delivered within 7 days, this is the only downside to amazon and often quicker than eBay
Oh I know know. I had two incorrect items last week. Full refunds, no return needed. However , there is a monthly cap on returns.

colin79666

2,202 posts

141 months

Monday 6th July
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Steve_H80

603 posts

50 months

Monday 6th July
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colin79666 said:
Not all 18650s are equal.

https://www.lumafield.com/battery-report
Interesting information, thanks for posting it.

Griffith4ever

6,702 posts

63 months

Monday 6th July
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colin79666 said:
Not all 18650s are equal.

https://www.lumafield.com/battery-report
Absolutely - that's why aftermarket tool batteries are WAY cheaper, they use grade B cells.

You can always throw the cell your torch comes with and put a new one in. I very, very highly doubt any of the box shifters on Amazon are using grade A cells in their lamps.

I've tonnes of 18650's some of which are crap, but none have even got so much as warm.

But, if you worry about this type of stuff, go down B&Q and buy a known name like Dewalt etc. Most people do not worry about this stuff.

Edited by Griffith4ever on Monday 6th July 11:48