RE: Kitted BMW M2 snatches 'ring lap record from CS
RE: Kitted BMW M2 snatches 'ring lap record from CS
Sunday 5th July

Kitted BMW M2 snatches 'ring lap record from CS

Figured the vastly expensive M Performance Track Kit was just for show? Think again...


While perhaps less significant than when it hot hatches duking it out for quickest possible time on the Nürburgring Nordschleife, there is still something to be said for being top of the so-called ‘Compact cars’ category when it comes to Green Hell lap records. In point of fact, of course, BMW already topped the leaderboard thanks to the 7:25.534 that the M2 CS recorded last year, thereby knocking the current Audi RS3 (with a 7:33.123) into second place. 

Make that third now. Seems BMW couldn’t resist another crack at the record in an M2 cloaked in its new M Performance Track Kit. That name might not slip off the tongue like ‘CS’, though of course the idea that it’s 0.5 seconds quicker than the flagship model is significant - because it means BMW has done its job with add-on components that were wholly focused on ‘further [sharpening] precision, stability and performance on the racetrack’. 

We’ve talked about the model in some detail when it was launched back in March (return there for the full technical lowdown), though suffice it to say, you get coilovers with four-way adjustable dampers, alongside an adjustable front splitter, assorted aero flicks and, in case you hadn’t noticed, a manually configurable swan-neck rear wing. Needless to say, many of the gains come from time spent in the wind tunnel eking out aerodynamic performance, all of it the ultimate responsibility of Jörg Weidinger, both the record-setting driver and BMW M test engineer for chassis development. 

On the basis of its performance - apparently conducted back in May ‘under demanding conditions’ - you’d have to say its job jobbed, even if the 7:25.068 advantage over the CS is a slender one. Whether or not the margin is compelling enough to convince anyone to invest in the 23,500 euros (more if you want ‘ultra track tyres’) required to turn your M2 into an official M Performance Track Kit wearer is an open question. But you wouldn’t bet against seeing one or two in the PH classifieds before the year is out…


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wistec1

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778 posts

68 months

Monday 6th July
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So is it 0.5 or 7:25.068 secs quicker? Confused. I doubt it matters if I'm reading this wrong because it's a lot of additional cost over the CS without having the significant talent to execute the difference in lap times at any track venue, It will probably win some bragging rights though.

GreatScott2016

2,434 posts

115 months

Monday 6th July
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wistec1 said:
So is it 0.5 or 7:25.068 secs quicker? Confused. I doubt it matters if I'm reading this wrong because it's a lot of additional cost over the CS without having the significant talent to execute the difference in lap times at any track venue, It will probably win some bragging rights though.
Agreed, in the real world driven by your average Joe, it will make no difference whatsoever smile

steveb8188

38 posts

7 months

Monday 6th July
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Love to see some bug splats on the front of a car to show it's been driven well in a nice place! Don't seem to get them in the UK as you used to.

sixor8

8,321 posts

295 months

Monday 6th July
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That'll be the 63% drop in winged insects in the UK since 2021, apparently:

https://www.kentwildlifetrust.org.uk/sites/default...

"When I were a lad," say the late 1980s, a drive in the country in summer would have your car plastered in splats, but not any more.

steveb8188

38 posts

7 months

Monday 6th July
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sixor8 said:
That'll be the 63% drop in winged insects in the UK since 2021, apparently:

https://www.kentwildlifetrust.org.uk/sites/default...

"When I were a lad," say the late 1980s, a drive in the country in summer would have your car plastered in splats, but not any more.
It's pretty worrying. I learnt in 1999 living in Yorkshire. On the moors a brisk drive would cover a front numberplate.

Andy86GT

1,006 posts

92 months

Tuesday
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Is the 'kitted' car a standard M2 or a CS model?
If standard, it would be interesting to know the standard car's lap capability, it would presumably show a much bigger gain than 0.5 seconds compared to a CS.

Maxym

2,919 posts

263 months

Tuesday
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0.5 seconds difference? It’s the same lap time basically. The difference could be accounted for by driver performance, atmospheric conditions or even a variation in engine performance between individual cars.

RacerMike

4,800 posts

238 months

Tuesday
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Andy86GT said:
Is the 'kitted' car a standard M2 or a CS model?
If standard, it would be interesting to know the standard car's lap capability, it would presumably show a much bigger gain than 0.5 seconds compared to a CS.
Standard G87 did a 7:38.706. So with the kit is 13seconds quicker.

The CS has an extra 50PS and 50Nm torque (although it's debateable as some dyno runs would suggest it's quite a bit more than that) and I believe was on Cup2s vs the standard car being on more road biased tyres. So it's 0.5s quicker than the CS, but with 'only' 480PS and 600Nm torque vs 530PS and 650Nm torque on the CS.

Power and tyres make a huge difference at the 'Ring. I would imagine with the CS Engine map (which is actually a very easy and cheap aftermarket flash) would maybe knock 5s off?

nismo48

6,703 posts

234 months

Tuesday
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Impressive 177mph on final straight

TheV10BARKSthenBITES

30 posts

1 month

Tuesday
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Andy86GT said:
Is the 'kitted' car a standard M2 or a CS model?
If standard, it would be interesting to know the standard car's lap capability, it would presumably show a much bigger gain than 0.5 seconds compared to a CS.
I think the CS is used as a point of reference as its the previous most extreme version you can get...

TheV10BARKSthenBITES

30 posts

1 month

Tuesday
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RacerMike said:
Andy86GT said:
Is the 'kitted' car a standard M2 or a CS model?
If standard, it would be interesting to know the standard car's lap capability, it would presumably show a much bigger gain than 0.5 seconds compared to a CS.
Standard G87 did a 7:38.706. So with the kit is 13seconds quicker.

The CS has an extra 50PS and 50Nm torque (although it's debateable as some dyno runs would suggest it's quite a bit more than that) and I believe was on Cup2s vs the standard car being on more road biased tyres. So it's 0.5s quicker than the CS, but with 'only' 480PS and 600Nm torque vs 530PS and 650Nm torque on the CS.

Power and tyres make a huge difference at the 'Ring. I would imagine with the CS Engine map (which is actually a very easy and cheap aftermarket flash) would maybe knock 5s off?
I find it hard to believe it would just have "480ps'....But if it does.... That is brilliant...

RacerMike

4,800 posts

238 months

Tuesday
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TheV10BARKSthenBITES said:
RacerMike said:
Andy86GT said:
Is the 'kitted' car a standard M2 or a CS model?
If standard, it would be interesting to know the standard car's lap capability, it would presumably show a much bigger gain than 0.5 seconds compared to a CS.
Standard G87 did a 7:38.706. So with the kit is 13seconds quicker.

The CS has an extra 50PS and 50Nm torque (although it's debateable as some dyno runs would suggest it's quite a bit more than that) and I believe was on Cup2s vs the standard car being on more road biased tyres. So it's 0.5s quicker than the CS, but with 'only' 480PS and 600Nm torque vs 530PS and 650Nm torque on the CS.

Power and tyres make a huge difference at the 'Ring. I would imagine with the CS Engine map (which is actually a very easy and cheap aftermarket flash) would maybe knock 5s off?
I find it hard to believe it would just have "480ps'....But if it does.... That is brilliant...
The track kit doesn't include a power bump, so it will just be the base 480PS engine cal. They're often a ltitle stronger than that, but it's also a heavy car at 1700kg

Andy86GT

1,006 posts

92 months

Tuesday
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Thanks for the answer chaps! beer

CG2020UK

2,929 posts

67 months

Tuesday
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That is seriously quick!

TheV10BARKSthenBITES

30 posts

1 month

Wednesday
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RacerMike said:
TheV10BARKSthenBITES said:
RacerMike said:
Andy86GT said:
Is the 'kitted' car a standard M2 or a CS model?
If standard, it would be interesting to know the standard car's lap capability, it would presumably show a much bigger gain than 0.5 seconds compared to a CS.
Standard G87 did a 7:38.706. So with the kit is 13seconds quicker.

The CS has an extra 50PS and 50Nm torque (although it's debateable as some dyno runs would suggest it's quite a bit more than that) and I believe was on Cup2s vs the standard car being on more road biased tyres. So it's 0.5s quicker than the CS, but with 'only' 480PS and 600Nm torque vs 530PS and 650Nm torque on the CS.

Power and tyres make a huge difference at the 'Ring. I would imagine with the CS Engine map (which is actually a very easy and cheap aftermarket flash) would maybe knock 5s off?
I find it hard to believe it would just have "480ps'....But if it does.... That is brilliant...
The track kit doesn't include a power bump, so it will just be the base 480PS engine cal. They're often a ltitle stronger than that, but it's also a heavy car at 1700kg
I am impressed... that is seriously quick and obviously in control of all of that 1700kg.... Impressive...

Does anyone know the 07' - 09'.. ? Nissan GTR 'Ring lap time ?

Edited by TheV10BARKSthenBITES on Wednesday 8th July 13:34

RacerMike

4,800 posts

238 months

Wednesday
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TheV10BARKSthenBITES said:
RacerMike said:
TheV10BARKSthenBITES said:
RacerMike said:
Andy86GT said:
Is the 'kitted' car a standard M2 or a CS model?
If standard, it would be interesting to know the standard car's lap capability, it would presumably show a much bigger gain than 0.5 seconds compared to a CS.
Standard G87 did a 7:38.706. So with the kit is 13seconds quicker.

The CS has an extra 50PS and 50Nm torque (although it's debateable as some dyno runs would suggest it's quite a bit more than that) and I believe was on Cup2s vs the standard car being on more road biased tyres. So it's 0.5s quicker than the CS, but with 'only' 480PS and 600Nm torque vs 530PS and 650Nm torque on the CS.

Power and tyres make a huge difference at the 'Ring. I would imagine with the CS Engine map (which is actually a very easy and cheap aftermarket flash) would maybe knock 5s off?
I find it hard to believe it would just have "480ps'....But if it does.... That is brilliant...
The track kit doesn't include a power bump, so it will just be the base 480PS engine cal. They're often a ltitle stronger than that, but it's also a heavy car at 1700kg
I am impressed... that is seriously quick and obviously in control of all of that 1700kg.... Impressive...

Does anyone know the 07' - 09'.. ? Nissan GTR 'Ring lap time ?

Edited by TheV10BARKSthenBITES on Wednesday 8th July 13:34
7min26.7 for the original GTR.

TheV10BARKSthenBITES

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1 month

Yesterday (01:37)
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Thanks... Okay, yes I'm officially impressed biglaughbeer