Head on Collision = Murder Charge
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There was an accident at end of June involving 2 cars in a head on, one driver sadly died at the scene the other has been charged with murder plus other things, never heard of someone being charged with murder after causing a crash!
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vaud said:
Aside from the appalling loss, I admire her fiancé's humour at a very dark time for him
Maher and Mullaney had been engaged since the 1980s but never got married.
"We've only been together for 40-odd years, you can't rush these things," Maher said.
I thought that too. Bit ironic. He could be in for a lot of hassle now - or perhaps he'll be glad of a clean break.Maher and Mullaney had been engaged since the 1980s but never got married.
"We've only been together for 40-odd years, you can't rush these things," Maher said.
Regarding the charge - I could only guess that the passenger in the accused's car has said something.
Edited by Sheepshanks on Monday 6th July 23:12
Its awful for the family of the victim.
Murder would imply intent to kill though.
I do recall reading on here that police often go with the highest charge possible early on, and then reduce it later.
But ultimately they will have to disclose their evidence to the defence solicitor, so it's a case of waiting to see i suppose.
Murder would imply intent to kill though.
I do recall reading on here that police often go with the highest charge possible early on, and then reduce it later.
But ultimately they will have to disclose their evidence to the defence solicitor, so it's a case of waiting to see i suppose.
LosingGrip said:
Jinba Ittai said:
I assume that the victim and accused knew each other due to the police force s mandatory self referral to the IOPC due to previous contact. What a terrible situation.
Not always. A few things it could be. HocusPocus said:
The mens rea for murder isn't malice aforethought. It is the intention to kill.
Not quite."Subject to three exceptions (which constitute partial defences to murder, and result in a conviction for manslaughter) the crime of murder is committed, where a person:
- of sound mind and discretion (sane)
- unlawfully kills (not self-defence or other justified killing)
- any reasonable creature (a human being)
- in being (born alive and breathing through its own lungs)
- under the King's Peace (not in wartime)
- with intent to kill or cause grievous bodily harm (in contrast to the offence of attempted murder, where only intent to kill will suffice)"
Source: CPS
There have been a number of cases recently when car drivers trying to avoid capture by the police have deliberately headed the wrong way down a dual carriageway becuase they know it will stop the police from following them.
For some reason it seems often to be drivers of middle sized vans.
They know they are putting other people's lives at risk by doing that, they couldn't care less.
Only their escape from capture matters to them.
To me that's murder, when a collision results and the innocent driver of (often) a smaller car dies in the resulting collision.
For some reason it seems often to be drivers of middle sized vans.
They know they are putting other people's lives at risk by doing that, they couldn't care less.
Only their escape from capture matters to them.
To me that's murder, when a collision results and the innocent driver of (often) a smaller car dies in the resulting collision.
agtlaw said:
HocusPocus said:
The mens rea for murder isn't malice aforethought. It is the intention to kill.
Not quite."Subject to three exceptions (which constitute partial defences to murder, and result in a conviction for manslaughter) the crime of murder is committed, where a person:
- of sound mind and discretion (sane)
- unlawfully kills (not self-defence or other justified killing)
- any reasonable creature (a human being)
- in being (born alive and breathing through its own lungs)
- under the King's Peace (not in wartime)
- with intent to kill or cause grievous bodily harm (in contrast to the offence of attempted murder, where only intent to kill will suffice)"
Source: CPS
LosingGrip said:
Jinba Ittai said:
I assume that the victim and accused knew each other due to the police force s mandatory self referral to the IOPC due to previous contact. What a terrible situation.
Not always. A few things it could be. BBC said:
Wiltshire Police said it had made a mandatory referral to the watchdog the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) due to previous involvement with the suspect.
The force said it received a number of calls from the public relating to the suspect prior to the collision throughout the day on 30 June.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj6gp07j3yyoThe force said it received a number of calls from the public relating to the suspect prior to the collision throughout the day on 30 June.
otolith said:
BBC said:
Wiltshire Police said it had made a mandatory referral to the watchdog the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) due to previous involvement with the suspect.
The force said it received a number of calls from the public relating to the suspect prior to the collision throughout the day on 30 June.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj6gp07j3yyoThe force said it received a number of calls from the public relating to the suspect prior to the collision throughout the day on 30 June.
Some of his previous.
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