Ioniq 5N a good idea?
Discussion
My current garage is a Tesla model 3 performance (2020) which is the family car, and a MINI JCW (2018) which is my fun car. The Tesla’s PCP is up in about 12 months so I’m considering selling the mini and picking up a 5N. Then when the pcp is done on the Tesla the 5N becomes the family car which frees up some cash for another fun car.
For our circumstances, an EV really works for us as a family car. I’m wondering though if there’s any other cars that may be worth looking at?
Also I have seen quite a few 5Ns from 2024 with about 3000 miles on for around £45k. Guessing they are ex demo cars? Would you suggest that these are a good purchase with 20k off the current purchase price?
For our circumstances, an EV really works for us as a family car. I’m wondering though if there’s any other cars that may be worth looking at?
Also I have seen quite a few 5Ns from 2024 with about 3000 miles on for around £45k. Guessing they are ex demo cars? Would you suggest that these are a good purchase with 20k off the current purchase price?
There is no doubt its a great car but, on my 4th EV, I still look at the balance between range and power (and of course VFM - very anti PH).
General consensus is less than 200 miles and that for me is a deal breaker for a family car. However we do at least one run a month in excess of 180 miles.
The only person who can say what you should do is you, but I would park that itch as it doesn't meet the "family" needs. A Q6 or polestar 3 might be worth looking at.
Damn you if you get one though; YOLO
General consensus is less than 200 miles and that for me is a deal breaker for a family car. However we do at least one run a month in excess of 180 miles.
The only person who can say what you should do is you, but I would park that itch as it doesn't meet the "family" needs. A Q6 or polestar 3 might be worth looking at.
Damn you if you get one though; YOLO
Edited by TheDrownedApe on Wednesday 8th July 19:20
If I was in your shoes, I'd test drive the 5N and it's sister car the Kia EV6GT and then because it's also a EV GT that's in budget I'd test drive an Audi e-tron GT and then I'd look at the Audi's sister car because that's what I did with the 5N and that's how I'd end up having to explain buying a 2023 Taycan to my other half.
Edited by Grant Urismo on Wednesday 8th July 20:21
Tesla Model 3 is the better EV. Ioniq 5 N is the better car.
I made exactly this switch (from a 2020 Model 3 Performance) and there's genuinely stuff I miss.
What I miss about the Model 3:
- The software. Tesla's satnav and charging integration were in a different league.
- No start/stop button. Tesla showed you don't need one, so I don't get why Hyundai persists with it.
- On the 5 N you have to click through a couple of screens on startup before you can get to infotainment or satnav, and it can be a bit slow.
- Better sound system, noticeably more bass.
- It felt lighter, nimbler, more agile. The 5 N is around 400kg heavier and you feel it.
- Smoother regen braking.
- Sensible number of drive modes. The 5 N has loads you'll never touch once you've configured a couple of driving modes.
- Fewer buttons. The 5 N has far too many, most of which I rarely or never use.
- Much better turning circle, easier to manoeuvre and park.
- More efficient with a bigger usable battery, so fewer charging stops on longer runs.
What the 5 N does better:
- Interior feels higher quality than my 2020 Model 3 did, though some trim marks easily and can't be fixed without a whole new door card.
- The simulated gears and engine noise are genuinely fun and add real engagement. I found the Tesla a bit boring at times; the 5 N never is.
- Looks far better and gets loads of attention.
- Much more practical as a family car, bigger boot opening and sliding rear seats.
- Sportier seats, though they're firm and get uncomfortable on longer drives.
So it depends what you want. If you mostly want an efficient, no-fuss EV for covering miles, the Tesla arguably still does that better. If you want a car that's actually fun and feels special to drive, the 5 N wins easily. I don't regret the switch, but do miss the Model 3.
I made exactly this switch (from a 2020 Model 3 Performance) and there's genuinely stuff I miss.
What I miss about the Model 3:
- The software. Tesla's satnav and charging integration were in a different league.
- No start/stop button. Tesla showed you don't need one, so I don't get why Hyundai persists with it.
- On the 5 N you have to click through a couple of screens on startup before you can get to infotainment or satnav, and it can be a bit slow.
- Better sound system, noticeably more bass.
- It felt lighter, nimbler, more agile. The 5 N is around 400kg heavier and you feel it.
- Smoother regen braking.
- Sensible number of drive modes. The 5 N has loads you'll never touch once you've configured a couple of driving modes.
- Fewer buttons. The 5 N has far too many, most of which I rarely or never use.
- Much better turning circle, easier to manoeuvre and park.
- More efficient with a bigger usable battery, so fewer charging stops on longer runs.
What the 5 N does better:
- Interior feels higher quality than my 2020 Model 3 did, though some trim marks easily and can't be fixed without a whole new door card.
- The simulated gears and engine noise are genuinely fun and add real engagement. I found the Tesla a bit boring at times; the 5 N never is.
- Looks far better and gets loads of attention.
- Much more practical as a family car, bigger boot opening and sliding rear seats.
- Sportier seats, though they're firm and get uncomfortable on longer drives.
So it depends what you want. If you mostly want an efficient, no-fuss EV for covering miles, the Tesla arguably still does that better. If you want a car that's actually fun and feels special to drive, the 5 N wins easily. I don't regret the switch, but do miss the Model 3.
SWoll said:
Just on the cost, I would guess that a 2 year old car that's lost £20k will definitely lose another £15-20k over the next 2 years.
I'm sure they're great fun,but when an EV6 GT of similar vintage can be had for £15k less I'm not convinced it's offering very good value?
The EV6 isn't in the same league as the 5 N. The GT is quick in a straight line, but the 5 N is a properly developed performance car rather than a fast trim level. It's got the extra chassis and cooling work, the drift/track modes, the simulated gears, and it's genuinely engaging in a way the EV6 GT just isn't. It was engineered by the N division to be driven hard, and it shows.I'm sure they're great fun,but when an EV6 GT of similar vintage can be had for £15k less I'm not convinced it's offering very good value?
On the depreciation point, you're not wrong that it'll keep dropping, but that logic applies to the EV6 GT too. Buying either two years old is exactly how you sidestep the worst of it. You're paying a premium over the EV6 for what is, to me, a much more special car, and whether that's worth it comes down to whether you actually want the performance-car side or just want a quick, practical EV. If it's the latter, fair enough, the EV6 makes sense. But they're not really cross-shopped for the same reasons.
covmutley said:
edc said:
If it's a family car do you really need the performance of a 5N, especially if you will have another fun car?
I agree with this. Allocate more budget to a more special car 2nd that is unlikely to depreciate as much. WCZ said:
if you're buying then the 5n makes sense, atm the lease deals are horrific on them
warranty is a concern though with lots of them having ICCU (think it's called that) issues
5 year warranty, so you're still covered for a while. Doesn't resolve any waiting for parts or inconvenience though i guess.warranty is a concern though with lots of them having ICCU (think it's called that) issues
Lease deals are terrible now, but they were bloody brilliant back towards the end of March. Under £14k over 2 years for 8,000 mile per year.
TheBinarySheep said:
5 year warranty, so you're still covered for a while. Doesn't resolve any waiting for parts or inconvenience though i guess.
Lease deals are terrible now, but they were bloody brilliant back towards the end of March. Under £14k over 2 years for 8,000 mile per year.
don't remind me haha, I applied for one and it got rejected (I am still suspicious about it and don't think they had any more cars left etc) now it's out of my budgetLease deals are terrible now, but they were bloody brilliant back towards the end of March. Under £14k over 2 years for 8,000 mile per year.
TheBinarySheep said:
The EV6 isn't in the same league as the 5 N. The GT is quick in a straight line, but the 5 N is a properly developed performance car rather than a fast trim level. It's got the extra chassis and cooling work, the drift/track modes, the simulated gears, and it's genuinely engaging in a way the EV6 GT just isn't. It was engineered by the N division to be driven hard, and it shows.
On the depreciation point, you're not wrong that it'll keep dropping, but that logic applies to the EV6 GT too. Buying either two years old is exactly how you sidestep the worst of it. You're paying a premium over the EV6 for what is, to me, a much more special car, and whether that's worth it comes down to whether you actually want the performance-car side or just want a quick, practical EV. If it's the latter, fair enough, the EV6 makes sense. But they're not really cross-shopped for the same reasons.
As mentioned by the OP it's going to be the family car supplemented by something more fun.On the depreciation point, you're not wrong that it'll keep dropping, but that logic applies to the EV6 GT too. Buying either two years old is exactly how you sidestep the worst of it. You're paying a premium over the EV6 for what is, to me, a much more special car, and whether that's worth it comes down to whether you actually want the performance-car side or just want a quick, practical EV. If it's the latter, fair enough, the EV6 makes sense. But they're not really cross-shopped for the same reasons.
The reality is you aren't getting close to 75% of the ability of either on the public road without risking your license and/or life, and they're both large and heavy cars that are ill suited to being driven hard on UK B roads.
Give that scenario I'd personally rather have another £15k to put towards the fun, supplementary car, but each to thir own of course.
I had a M3 Perf for 6 years and moved to an EV6 GT last year as there was some utterly insane deals which is a very similar car / cross platform jobbie
I passionately hate the M3 even thou it had some impressive tech, After a year (next month) I still really enjoy the KIA, its like a big AMG GLA45, its got real buttons for the common control systems (woohoo) its supports Car Play / Android Auto (i had to use a phone cradle in the Tesla because of the dog s
t infotainment and 2D sat nav) so i have waze on a nice big screen and my podcasts / audio books carry on from where i left off, the auto wipers work and have a control stalk, and its got proper brakes. Its got one foot driving the same as the Tesla,
Oh and I use the power buttons on the wheel every single time i use the car, Eco is also vastly better judged (GTi type performance) than chill which was gutless and trying to swap in the menus just dangerous
i wouldn’t hesitate to get a 5N or a 6N, i cant think of anything in the price range i would rather have
I passionately hate the M3 even thou it had some impressive tech, After a year (next month) I still really enjoy the KIA, its like a big AMG GLA45, its got real buttons for the common control systems (woohoo) its supports Car Play / Android Auto (i had to use a phone cradle in the Tesla because of the dog s
t infotainment and 2D sat nav) so i have waze on a nice big screen and my podcasts / audio books carry on from where i left off, the auto wipers work and have a control stalk, and its got proper brakes. Its got one foot driving the same as the Tesla,Oh and I use the power buttons on the wheel every single time i use the car, Eco is also vastly better judged (GTi type performance) than chill which was gutless and trying to swap in the menus just dangerous
i wouldn’t hesitate to get a 5N or a 6N, i cant think of anything in the price range i would rather have
TheBinarySheep said:
. It's got the extra chassis and cooling work, the drift/track modes, the simulated gears, and it's genuinely engaging in a way the EV6 GT just isn't. It was engineered by the N division to be driven hard, and it shows.
face lift EV6 GT got all that stuff, personally i would never use the simulated gears, i never used all the track / power split gubbins in the tesla either, i do use the power mode buttons all the time thou What about another Model 3 Performance, but the latest one?
I have a 2021 Model 3 Performance, but tried the newer one prior to buying as it was the only demo they had of the performance variant. Comparing the two, the latest one has better seats, a better ride, and I thought felt slightly sharper with less roll than my 2021 car.
That being said, I'll also be shortlisting the Ioniq 5 (and 6) N when I next change.
I have a 2021 Model 3 Performance, but tried the newer one prior to buying as it was the only demo they had of the performance variant. Comparing the two, the latest one has better seats, a better ride, and I thought felt slightly sharper with less roll than my 2021 car.
That being said, I'll also be shortlisting the Ioniq 5 (and 6) N when I next change.
I have the Ioniq 5N on the shortlist for replacing my 2020 Model 3.
Our Tesla has been fantastic and we now run a Model 3 and Y but the Y does all the driving now.
I seen a black Ioniq 6 N in the flesh and thought it was brilliant. Looks awful in photos but in the flesh look great.
If the car is older than mid 2024 Hyundai now give a 15 year warranty on the ICCU.
Our Tesla has been fantastic and we now run a Model 3 and Y but the Y does all the driving now.
I seen a black Ioniq 6 N in the flesh and thought it was brilliant. Looks awful in photos but in the flesh look great.
If the car is older than mid 2024 Hyundai now give a 15 year warranty on the ICCU.
Dave Hedgehog said:
face lift EV6 GT got all that stuff, personally i would never use the simulated gears, i never used all the track / power split gubbins in the tesla either, i do use the power mode buttons all the time thou
It doesn't.It's got the motors, simulated gears and an engine sound. it's still the base car with some tweaks.
Both are great cars, but I think they're aimed at different markets.
I never use half the setting in mine, but i use the simulated gear regularly.
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