RE: New Mercedes-AMG CLA 45 is 'unthinkable' 680hp EV
RE: New Mercedes-AMG CLA 45 is 'unthinkable' 680hp EV
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New Mercedes-AMG CLA 45 is 'unthinkable' 680hp EV

Bored of waiting for the all-electric M3? New CLA saloon and wagon have had an almighty glow up...


The jump from ICE to EV power has seen plenty of performance cars not just skip forward in their potential but leap boisterously. This new Mercedes-AMG CLA 45 clearly got the memo and ad-libbed: gone is the old, 421hp 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbo, replaced by a mighty 94kWh battery and three axial flux motors for 680hp and 0-62mph in three seconds flat. Seen lower figures elsewhere? Affalterbach has cribbed off American benchmarking and is quoting 2.7s with a one-foot rollout…

It’s almighty performance for the artist formerly known as AMG’s entry-level sports saloon. And while the – ahem – divisive AMG GT 4-Door Coupe takes care of halo performance figures and maximum shock value, the littler CLA wants to give you good old-fashioned interaction.

Never mind its power figure, the headline surely goes to AMGFORCE S+. It’s a brash name for a very zeitgeisty piece of tech, one which simulates gearchanges and apparently uses 1,600 recorded sound effects from the outgoing AMG A45 S – plus built-in ‘seat shakers’ – to ensure they hammer home with appropriate realism. (And you thought a four-pot hot hatch was a break from AMG tradition.)

“Filters, burbling effects, acceleration sequences: the entire acoustic spectrum of a modern performance car can be experienced,” we’re told. Sounds aren’t reserved for motion, either, with “two confirming heartbeats when the vehicle is locked, a concise boom when plugging in the charging cable, and a characterful electric hum when charging starts.” What a world…

Perhaps you’re more titillated by the prospect of its three motors – two on the rear axle and one up front. As well as delivering its 680hp and 1,297lb ft (!) peaks, they offer fully variable all-wheel drive. The rear pairing is the priority and can deliver the full hit of power, while the front acts as a temporary booster and peaks at 360hp. Torque can be shuffled smartly front to back and there’s torque vectoring functionality between the rear pair for “plenty of driving pleasure”. Hopefully that proves as much of an understatement as it sounds – the ‘45 models before it were known for their drift modes, after all.

AMG Ride Control pairs steel springs with adaptive three-way dampers which toggle through Comfort, Sport and AMGFORCE S+ setups. The latter already sounds too stiff for UK roads, right? AMG Dynamic Select adds six drive modes as standard, or seven if you’ve ticked the right options box to add its Race parameter. Perhaps you won’t need it, however: in Race, the car’s permanently AWD, sits lower to the ground and prioritises laptimes. The lowlier S+ mode, and its virtual shifts, might just be the place you dwell more frequently. A steering wheel toggle allows you to adjust numerous elements – ESP intervention among them – independent of drive mode.

Active aerodynamics are the cherry atop it all. Active radiator fins up front prioritise aero efficiency by staying closed until absolutely necessary, while the rear spoiler on both the Saloon and Shooting Brake versions – yep, both live on in the fully electric era – visually integrates into the design under normal operation before adopting different angles depending on your speed and drive mode. Show-offs will be delighted to know there’s manual activation, too.

Practicalities? Mercedes claims 3.3-3.7 miles per kWh efficiency in the four-door for a range of up to 416 miles (you’ll dip to 397 miles in the wagon) and 330kW peak DC charging thanks to 800V architecture. Less range than a base Benz CLA 250+ and its smaller battery, but not half bad given the AMG’s extra driven axle and its bombardment of additional systems. Weight, too: with clanging inevitability, this new CLA 45 is a 2.3-tonne car, though that’s hardly a shock given an Audi RS5 now sits there too. 

The Saloon offers 390 litres of boot volume, the Shooting Brake 450 litres, and both pack another 101 litres into their frunk. DC charging from 10-80 per cent can be as brisk as 22 minutes and – if the chargers play ball – you can gain 168 miles of range in just ten minutes. Which does, we suppose, hint at the ability to actually take a car like this on track to explore its blatantly vast potential rather than merely daydream of it.

AMG hopes you will: its Track Pace app is optional and comes pre-loaded with the Nürburgring and Spa, among other circuits, plus coaching programmes that pipe corner-by-corner instructions into the head-up display for an authentic driving sim feel.

Quite how many laps of those illustrious tracks can be wrung from each charge remains to be seen – drivers will surely drink more contemplative coffees at the Devil’s Diner here than with any combustion AMG – but five levels of brake regen and the ability to stop the car entirely on electronics should help wring out a mite more range. Though its 390mm front/350mm rear discs will be necessary for track work.

We’ve not even touched on its design, though suffice to say our first impression is of a car much more palatable than its bigger GT 4-Door Coupe brother. Chintzy illuminated grilles and light bars aside, its overall look is reassuringly similar to the CLA 45s that went before it. Even if, as those stats undoubtedly suggest, its performance has entered an entirely new sphere.


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ChrisCh86

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Also available as a Touring?

Awesome.


I do think this should have a different name though, perhaps CLA45e. Yes it's too heavy, but the base car is at least efficient and thankfully it's not another SUV

biggbn

31,612 posts

247 months

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What a brilliant thing.

Every day a journey

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65 months

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Still an ugly, melting-looking thing though.

Soon to be wrapped round a lamppost/tree/traffic light in Bradford

Noe

106 posts

310 months

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Bradford? Another whinging so called petrolhead that isn’t

The problem here : it’s just dull

RB Will

10,764 posts

267 months

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Screens inside are a bit much for me but otherwise that is a decent effort, wagon for me.

Pixel Pusher

10,393 posts

186 months

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RB Will said:
Screens inside are a bit much for me but otherwise that is a decent effort, wagon for me.
AMG CLA IMAX

Imaging Cycling Mikey riding past when you're face timing on the middle screen and watching a film on the right screen.


dukeboy749r

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237 months

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If it can achieve close to those ranges during either a full-on summer such as we are having now, or in a chilly 'Best from the East' winter, what's not to like?

More screens, and a plethora of fake sounds, is increasingly becoming the norm, so we either accept this or only continue to buy petrol and diesel vehicles without them, until they are no more.

GreatScott2016

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115 months

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Well at least I can continue my hatred of all things Merc. Dreadful looking thing and that rear spoiler is comical. Performance stats are meaningless if something looks that bad. I can see it ticking a lot of boxes for Merc fans, but it’s a big no from me.

dpop

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159 months

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Between the unavoidable massive screens, obscene accelaration and mercedes's inability to design a suspension setting between too soft and rock hard, this will definitely be a total vomit-comet for the passengers involved - and that's not taking into account how they may react when they see it in the first place...

Motormouth88

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87 months

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Wagon looks great especially in that green, front end styling is getting a bit ‘melted welly’ for my taste though

Clad-Hach

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AMG's should have big shouty engines in them (the 2.0L was joke) and now an electrified one with added engine noises and vibrations...another joke.

I always kind of lusted after a fast Mercedes there was something about them I liked...probably the big shouty engine, so sad to see this being offered, sure it will appeal to some but the rest of us will just weep.

J4CKO

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Axial Flux motors is the interesting bit here for me, first non supercar to have them as far as I know, Mercedes bought YASA, a UK company who took what was an old concept and made it work, this is the trickle down from that.

The article doesnt expand on it but this is notable because Axial Flux motors are half the size of normal (Radial Flux) motors and produce double the torque, hence the 1297 lb/ft. 680 bhp isnt what we all need but seeing Axial Flux motors migrate down from being fill in motors in hypercars is progress.

A motor for a small hatch with 150 bhp will only need to be 24 kilos, for reference a radial flux if maybe 60 and a comparable small engine is about 95. The use less copper and are 3 to 5 percent more efficient, they are also better for producing continuous power and easier to cool.

Will end up with stuff like the Renault 5 with a tiny motor that needs less battery to power it, the size means packaging can be improved as the motor is 30cm across and 10cm deep, about the size of an LP record, couple that with the battery improvements that are coming and its going to be really interesting.

But the screens, just no, thats ridiculous, one for the instruments, one for everything else and keep them modest.



Bluehorseshoe

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2 months

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Looks nice to me i assume v expensive but aren't all things

BlueJazz

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199 months

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According to Autocar "Vibrating motors are fitted in the front seats to ape the rumble of the petrol engine in the occupants backs, and the sound can be heard both inside and outside the car, with pops and crackles on the overrun. It has both quiet and loud modes, and Mercedes says the latter rivals aftermarket exhaust systems for audible impact."

Pops and bangs via speakers for us all to hear! I wonder how long until someone changes the speaker for something much louder?

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/electric-cars/n...

Every day a journey

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Noe said:
Bradford? Another whinging so called petrolhead that isn t

The problem here : it s just dull
and what's 'petrolheady' at all about an ugly, 2.3 ton electric saloon?

WCZ

11,409 posts

221 months

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hope it's not too expensive otherwise, yes please

Hairymonster

1,672 posts

132 months

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Those screens look like an arcade motor racing game.

About as far removed from appealing to a petrolhead as it gets. Hateful device.

corcoran

686 posts

301 months

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as a touring - pour it into my soul - hell yes.

J4CKO

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Hairymonster said:
Those screens look like an arcade motor racing game.

About as far removed from appealing to a petrolhead as it gets. Hateful device.
When did you drive it ?

Or are you just guessing it will be "hateful".

I am not sure who could drive a 680 bhp electric car that accelerates like a rocket sled, instantly and not derive some enjoyment, some of the sensations will be different to an ICE, and others wont be present or heightened. Is this where you say its not as good as say an MGB ?

What do you drive ?

fflump

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Clad-Hach said:
AMG's should have big shouty engines in them (the 2.0L was joke) and now an electrified one with added engine noises and vibrations...another joke.

I always kind of lusted after a fast Mercedes there was something about them I liked...probably the big shouty engine, so sad to see this being offered, sure it will appeal to some but the rest of us will just weep.
I fail to see how the 2L engine is a “joke”. It’s a fabulous engine ideally suited to the small A Class platform cars. It doesn’t suit the C class or SL but that’s not the topic of this thread.