Islamic event targeted, 12 arrested

[ChevronB19]

Breaking on BBC (and presumably other places), quoted as ‘extreme right wing plot’

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https://news.met.police.uk/news/total-of-12-arrest...

[sparta6]

Running parallel to this


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz0jkj7e87go


Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood has announced Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) will be designated a threat to national security.
Mahmood will use new government powers to ban support for the group, which has been linked to death threats, attacks and intimidation in the UK.
In a written statement to Parliament, she set out how support for the IRGC, from expressing a positive opinion to assisting them, will now be an offence punishable by up to 14 years in prison.
Two other groups are also being proscribed, the Islamic Movement of Companions of the Right (IMCR), and the volunteer corps of Russia's GRU (foreign military intelligence agency).
New powers will be given to police and intelligence agencies to tackle espionage, foreign interference, sabotage and physical attacks from these groups.

[ChevronB19]

sparta6 said:

Running parallel to this


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz0jkj7e87go


Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood has announced Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) will be designated a threat to national security.
Mahmood will use new government powers to ban support for the group, which has been linked to death threats, attacks and intimidation in the UK.
In a written statement to Parliament, she set out how support for the IRGC, from expressing a positive opinion to assisting them, will now be an offence punishable by up to 14 years in prison.
Two other groups are also being proscribed, the Islamic Movement of Companions of the Right (IMCR), and the volunteer corps of Russia's GRU (foreign military intelligence agency).
New powers will be given to police and intelligence agencies to tackle espionage, foreign interference, sabotage and physical attacks from these groups.

Erm, what relevance does this have to the story I quoted?

Start a different thread, by all means.

[sparta6]

ChevronB19 said:

sparta6 said:

Running parallel to this


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz0jkj7e87go


Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood has announced Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) will be designated a threat to national security.
Mahmood will use new government powers to ban support for the group, which has been linked to death threats, attacks and intimidation in the UK.
In a written statement to Parliament, she set out how support for the IRGC, from expressing a positive opinion to assisting them, will now be an offence punishable by up to 14 years in prison.
Two other groups are also being proscribed, the Islamic Movement of Companions of the Right (IMCR), and the volunteer corps of Russia's GRU (foreign military intelligence agency).
New powers will be given to police and intelligence agencies to tackle espionage, foreign interference, sabotage and physical attacks from these groups.

Erm, what relevance does this have to the story I quoted?

Start a different thread, by all means.

It shows there's a possible pushback occurring.

Both legally and illegally.

[captain_cynic]

sparta6 said:

It shows there's a possible pushback occurring.

Both legally and illegally.

No... it's a terrible squirrell because you can't handle what happened and desperately need to turn the blame on the people you don't like.

It's a completely unrelated event, feel free to start your own thread about the IRGC.. you're going to find they don't have many supporters.

That being said, I'm completely unsurprised that you're doing this.

[s1962a]

sparta6 said:

It shows there's a possible pushback occurring.

Both legally and illegally.

Pushback to what? Are you somehow conflating the IRGC to some event being targeted in the UK? Whats the connection?

[butchstewie]

12 arrested on a mix of section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000 and conspiracy to murder.

What the hell were they alleged to have been planning

[sparta6]

captain_cynic said:

sparta6 said:

It shows there's a possible pushback occurring.

Both legally and illegally.

No... it's a terrible squirrell because you can't handle what happened and desperately need to turn the blame on the people you don't like.

"Can't handle", how do you mean ?

It's an awful suspected attack, those guilty should face the full consequences.

[s1962a]

butchstewie said:

12 arrested on a mix of section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000 and conspiracy to murder.

What the hell were they alleged to have been planning

I suspect off the back of this you may have muslims get extra funding for security. Shouldn't be this way, but looks like our taxpayer money is going to go on protecting them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgl20x1ggpo

[Mortarboard]

sparta6 said:

It shows there's a possible pushback occurring.

Both legally and illegally.

Wut?

Disgruntled uk oil executives hankering for revenge over the strait of hormuz?



You "tribalists" are too funny at times

M.

[S600BSB]

Excellent work by the police.

[butchstewie]

s1962a said:

I suspect off the back of this you may have muslims get extra funding for security. Shouldn't be this way, but looks like our taxpayer money is going to go on protecting them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgl20x1ggpo

I don't see a problem with that.

If there's a threat there - which there clearly looks to have been in this case - that's what the Police are there to do.

[sparta6]

Mortarboard said:

sparta6 said:

It shows there's a possible pushback occurring.

Both legally and illegally.

Wut?

Disgruntled uk oil executives hankering for revenge over the strait of hormuz?



You "tribalists" are too funny at times

M.

Your leader Trump probably knows the score

[sparta6]

butchstewie said:

s1962a said:

I suspect off the back of this you may have muslims get extra funding for security. Shouldn't be this way, but looks like our taxpayer money is going to go on protecting them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgl20x1ggpo

I don't see a problem with that.

If there's a threat there - which there clearly looks to have been in this case - that's what the Police are there to do.

Agree.

I don't see a problem either, providing the spend is proportionately matched to the security spend against antisemitism.

[s1962a]

Mortarboard said:

sparta6 said:

It shows there's a possible pushback occurring.

Both legally and illegally.

Wut?

Disgruntled uk oil executives hankering for revenge over the strait of hormuz?



You "tribalists" are too funny at times

M.

maybe the muslamic raygun types were worried about iraqi law

[s1962a]

sparta6 said:

Agree.

I don't see a problem either, providing the spend is proportionately matched to the security spend against antisemitism.

Thats a good point actually, and I agree. Shame it has to come to this but there are dangerous people out there.

[Gareth79]

butchstewie said:

12 arrested on a mix of section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000 and conspiracy to murder.

What the hell were they alleged to have been planning

Given the people were across different locations I assume that there was some private group discussing the event and MI5/police etc. were monitoring communications and some plan had developed to attack it towards the end of the event. Although five people were in Surrey and the ages look like they are a family - grandfather, two sons, and two of their sons?

[butchstewie]

I know it's a very serious subject but I did have a little snigger at the list of who's been arrested and where.

[A] a 27-year-old man arrested in Surrey on 12 July
[B] a 35-year-old man arrested in the Greater Manchester area on 12 July
[C] a 31-year-old man arrested in east London on 13 July
[D] a 42-year-old man arrested in Essex on 12 July
[E] a 42-year-old man arrested in Essex on 12 July
[F] a 33-year-old man arrested in southeast London on 13 July
[G] a 29-year-old man arrested in Surrey on 12 July
[H] a 27-year-old man arrested in Ipswich on 12 July
[I] a 48-year-old woman arrested in East London on 13 July
[J] a 82-year-old man arrested in Surrey on 12 July
[K] a 55-year-old man arrested in Surrey on 12 July
[L] a 60-year-old man arrested in Surrey on 12 July

You can just imagine the types.

[captain_cynic]

butchstewie said:

12 arrested on a mix of section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000 and conspiracy to murder.

What the hell were they alleged to have been planning

Charges like that are usually an "attack ready to go" situation.