Why has this consumer unit had this added?
Why has this consumer unit had this added?
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Scarletpimpofnel

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1,476 posts

47 months

Friday 17th July
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I went to disable a lighting circuit and fortunately realised I’d disabled a 32Amp circuit.

Oddly this CU has had a blank fitted after the incoming mains switch which means MCB labels no longer align.

Anyone any idea why this was done? Can it be undone by me removing the blank, sliding MCB along and reinserting the blank?

OutInTheShed

14,337 posts

55 months

Friday 17th July
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Probably some horror inside, like wires won't reach.
Buy some new stickers instead.

E-bmw

13,308 posts

181 months

Friday 17th July
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Scarletpimpofnel said:
Oddly this CU has had a blank fitted after the incoming mains switch which means MCB labels no longer align.

Anyone any idea why this was done? Can it be undone by me removing the blank, sliding MCB along and reinserting the blank?
No, the only person that knows why it has been done will be the person that did it.

Could be the wiring was modified, could be there was something removed no longer needing power, could be a cct breaker was defective, we will likely never know.

No, you can't slide them, they are connected to solid copper bus bars inside.

By virtue of the fact that you have asked the above questions, if I were you I would be getting an electrician in to sort it out.

Chumley.mouse

948 posts

66 months

Friday 17th July
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Remove the cover and have a look inside ?

andy43

13,122 posts

283 months

Friday 17th July
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I'm going to guess it had a surge protection device on, it popped, and it's just been rewired and blanked off instead of being replaced.
You can shuffle the mcbs up the bus bars easily enough but everything needs disconnecting and one might need cutting or replacing - you either need an electrician or an ebay sticker advert.

Gary C

15,212 posts

208 months

Friday 17th July
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Just relabel

Just not worth messing with it just to get the stickers to align.

speedyman

1,630 posts

263 months

Friday 17th July
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Masking tape over the top of the original stickers and re write the breakers again.

Mr Pointy

13,318 posts

188 months

Friday 17th July
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It's the wrong label for the board. The board is a split type with two RCDs & the label is for a single RCD board. Amazon do sheets of new labels:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=consumer+unit+lables&...

normalbloke

8,821 posts

248 months

Friday 17th July
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speedyman said:
Masking tape over the top of the original stickers and re write the breakers again.
Cringe..

Scarletpimpofnel

Original Poster:

1,476 posts

47 months

Friday 17th July
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Gary C said:
Just relabel

Just not worth messing with it just to get the stickers to align.
Whilst I agree I’m just curious what is behind this. Why was it done?!

I might isolate the cu and have a look. I’m a natural worrier that something isn’t right there. Even that blank is a different size to the others.

I think I’ll have a look and if all looks well I’ll relabel.

Thanks all. Appreciate your points.

No ideas for a name

3,142 posts

115 months

Friday 17th July
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Mr Pointy said:
It's the wrong label for the board. The board is a split type with two RCDs & the label is for a single RCD board. Amazon do sheets of new labels:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=consumer+unit+lables&...
I suspect it is the opposite - ie. it is the right label for the board, but at some point someone has converted it in to a split load board.
I am expecting it isn't going to be tidy in there... someone will have needed to split the live feed so that it goes to each RCB.

All guess work without the cover off - and not knowing the OPs understanding, I am not suggesting he does that.
(OP: If you are comfortable with having the front off after turning off the main switch,, a picture might reveal more)

Scarletpimpofnel

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1,476 posts

47 months

Friday 17th July
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I don’t understand why an electrician making a change would leave the cu mud labelled like that. Seems dangerous to me?

No ideas for a name

3,142 posts

115 months

Friday 17th July
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Scarletpimpofnel said:
I don t understand why an electrician making a change would leave the cu mud labelled like that. Seems dangerous to me?
It is poor/dangerous as it misleads you in to which circuit you have isolated (though you should always test).
I suspect a great lazyness descended upon them and it was time to go home.

Road2Ruin

6,443 posts

245 months

Friday 17th July
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Scarletpimpofnel said:
I don t understand why an electrician making a change would leave the cu mud labelled like that. Seems dangerous to me?
I don't understand why you would put a question mark at the end of a sentence that wasn't a question. It amazing what people will randomly do! wink

Mr Creosote

230 posts

14 months

Saturday 18th July
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Road2Ruin said:
I don't understand why you would put a question mark at the end of a sentence that wasn't a question. It amazing what people will randomly do! wink
I don’t understand why you’d randomly drop a verb from a sentence. It amazing.

wink

DorsetSparky

647 posts

39 months

Saturday 18th July
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Scarletpimpofnel said:
I might isolate the cu and have a look. I m a natural worrier that something isn t right there.
With all due respect, unless you're a qualified electrician I wouldn't recommend removing the cover. How do you propose isolating the consumer unit; is it fed by a double-pole isolator? If not, just by turning off the main switch? Obviously if you do this the tails/incoming side of the main switch is still live and then exposed. Please be careful; I'm not sure what you're achieving by 'having a look'. If you're concerned, enlist a qualified electrician to carry out a full EICR and report on your fixed wiring.

E-bmw

13,308 posts

181 months

Saturday 18th July
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DorsetSparky said:
Scarletpimpofnel said:
I might isolate the cu and have a look. I m a natural worrier that something isn t right there.
With all due respect, unless you're a qualified electrician I wouldn't recommend removing the cover. How do you propose isolating the consumer unit; is it fed by a double-pole isolator? If not, just by turning off the main switch? Obviously if you do this the tails/incoming side of the main switch is still live and then exposed. Please be careful; I'm not sure what you're achieving by 'having a look'. If you're concerned, enlist a qualified electrician to carry out a full EICR and report on your fixed wiring.
This is exactly why when the OP asked the question I said for him to get a sparky in to do it. wink

Mark V GTD

3,134 posts

153 months

Saturday 18th July
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How come there are several 32 amp circuits? One of them seems to relate to sockets. I thought 32 amps was normally only for 6mm wired circuits for hobs, higher powered ovens and perhaps electric showers?

andy43

13,122 posts

283 months

Saturday 18th July
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Mark V GTD said:
How come there are several 32 amp circuits? One of them seems to relate to sockets. I thought 32 amps was normally only for 6mm wired circuits for hobs, higher powered ovens and perhaps electric showers?
Ring mains for sockets. 2.5mm cable will do roughly 20 amps iirc but if you do a ring back to the mcb to split the energy flow into two it’ll cope with 40 amps in theory.

Belle427

11,830 posts

262 months

Saturday 18th July
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A socket ring uses a 32 amp mcb, you never know what horrors your facing until you open it up and take a look.