Manchester: Three Firefighter facing disciplinary action.
Manchester: Three Firefighter facing disciplinary action.
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Milkyway

Original Poster:

13,729 posts

80 months

An Inquiry into why three Firefighters were giving rides at a Community Event.
They took Children on a round trip of two minutes a time.
It made one young lad's day... he is Fire Engine mad & is recovering from Cancer.

The Appliance & crew were booked off regular duties... but could have responded to a SERIOUS incident if required.

They are now looking to see if any H&S rules were broken & how many trips were undertaken.
(Even rumours of Industrial Action).

NB: Yet the service are encouraged to engage with the Community.

JEEZ. banghead


Edited by Milkyway on Friday 24th July 21:03

Warhavernet

1,303 posts

14 months

The negative side of living in a modern, civilised country that has rules, regs and procedures.

I know it's H&S gone mad but,

Were the details of what they were planning to do on that day OK'd by FB senior officers ?
What if a kid was injured ?
Were " Kids engine rides " covered by the FB's insurance ?

Gareth79

8,883 posts

273 months

I grew up around the fire service (my father was a retained firefighter) and it was an absolute no-no to give rides even back in the 80s/90s, it was unthinkable.

Sheepshanks

40,426 posts

146 months

Gareth79 said:
I grew up around the fire service (my father was a retained firefighter) and it was an absolute no-no to give rides even back in the 80s/90s, it was unthinkable.
Same for my dad even in the 60’s/70’s.

Maybe it’s one of those things that hasn’t been done for so long that it hasn’t come up recently?

Milkyway

Original Poster:

13,729 posts

80 months

Sheepshanks said:
Same for my dad even in the 60 s/70 s.

Maybe it s one of those things that hasn t been done for so long that it hasn t come up recently?
Maybe the Firefighters were unaware of it being a 'no-no'.
I just hope that it can be resolved without any black marks against them.


Edited by Milkyway on Friday 24th July 19:37

normalbloke

8,731 posts

246 months

When I was a kid having a ride on a fire engine, they didn’t even know we were hanging off the back….

Milkyway

Original Poster:

13,729 posts

80 months

normalbloke said:
When I was a kid having a ride on a fire engine, they didn t even know we were hanging off the back .
The mandatory School trip to the Fire Station... the brave sliding down the pole.
(Must be disallowed now... For kids anyway).

Edited by Milkyway on Friday 24th July 21:04

Randy Winkman

21,861 posts

216 months

What's the problem with there being an inquiry and why is there no link to the story in the OP?

keo

2,911 posts

197 months

Randy Winkman said:
What's the problem with there being an inquiry and why is there no link to the story in the OP?
It made a young lads day who has cancer. Shouldn’t that be enough. What a wonderful thing to do.

What will an enquiry achieve? Most probably be a waste of time and money carried out by people full of their own self importance. Patting each other on the back saying what a good job they have done. Can’t bring any joy to young kids now a days.

Randy Winkman

21,861 posts

216 months

keo said:
Randy Winkman said:
What's the problem with there being an inquiry and why is there no link to the story in the OP?
It made a young lads day who has cancer. Shouldn t that be enough. What a wonderful thing to do.

What will an enquiry achieve? Most probably be a waste of time and money carried out by people full of their own self importance. Patting each other on the back saying what a good job they have done. Can t bring any joy to young kids now a days.
I hope the kids had a great time and that the inquiry finds that there was no wrongdoing. smile I just dont see the problem with looking into it. People should always be ready to answer questions and justify themselves. I think we could do with more of that.

Randy Winkman

21,861 posts

216 months

Milkyway said:
Randy Winkman said:
What's the problem with there being an inquiry and why is there no link to the story in the OP?[/quote

Apologies...
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...
No problem. Just to clarify - I dont think the inquiry needs to take up too much resource, but I just cant see what's wrong with looking into the use of the vehicle and such like. I do voluntary stuff for another emergency service at events and can imagine the rules are quite strict about all sorts of things.

Milkyway

Original Poster:

13,729 posts

80 months

Apologies, It is National News... but a lot of the links have a load of adverts / bait on them.

But...No doubt the Services & other demonstrations have strict H&S restrictions.

Edited by Milkyway on Friday 24th July 20:31