Spanish enclave overun in Mororcco with 49,000 migrants
Spanish enclave overun in Mororcco with 49,000 migrants
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Brother D

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4,408 posts

204 months

Yesterday (15:38)
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I thought there would be a topic running on this? The videos posted are quite staggering and official estimates are reporting 'only' 49,000 illegal migrants overun the boarder in the Spanish enclave of Ceuta in the last 24 hours with no hold up.

Seems an unfortunate consequence of giving mass-amnesty to illegals...

Shnozz

30,471 posts

299 months

Yesterday (15:42)
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I often wondered about this strange little outpost given its susceptibility to this sort of incident given where it is positioned.

So, forgive my stupidity, but what happens next? Are the Spanish obliged to import this 50k people to the mainland to then try to extradite them back to Morocco from there?

Spare tyre

12,471 posts

158 months

Yesterday (15:45)
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It’s a clever way of sneaking in I guess. Strange times indeed

bloomen

9,842 posts

187 months

Yesterday (15:51)
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Shnozz said:
So, forgive my stupidity, but what happens next? Are the Spanish obliged to import this 50k people to the mainland to then try to extradite them back to Morocco from there?
Presumably one of the reasons this has exploded is because of a recent Spanish supreme court ruling saying that people who are stopped at sea, let alone arrive by it, can't be summarily returned to Morocco.

And then there's the granting legal status to however many hundreds of thousands in Spain.

Both of these seem like they're going to set up rather obvious problems.

Sounds like the amount of fresh arrivals almost matches the entire population of the exclave which is bonkers.

abzmike

11,867 posts

134 months

Yesterday (15:54)
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Seems more to do with Spain-Morocco relations than anything else. 14,000 have apparently already gone back over the border.
The usual talking heads here have already started yelling that they are all heading here, neglecting to mention that this part of Spain is on the other side of the Med.

MightyBadger

4,423 posts

78 months

Yesterday (15:54)
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Everything is about to go pear shaped, brace yourselves.

bloomen

9,842 posts

187 months

Yesterday (15:55)
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abzmike said:
Seems more to do with Spain-Morocco relations than anything else.
It happened in 2021 too when Morocco decided to become v relaxed at the border.

Quite a handy little pressure valve for them.

Dunno what the beef is this time. I think it was medically treating some bigwig from Western Sahara last time.

bunchofkeys

1,286 posts

96 months

Yesterday (15:59)
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Feel sorry for the poor buggers living there, having to put up with this invasion. Must be st for them.

Edited by bunchofkeys on Friday 31st July 16:05

simon_harris

2,985 posts

62 months

Yesterday (16:02)
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50,000 people could almost be considered an army...

bloomen

9,842 posts

187 months

Yesterday (16:12)
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bunchofkeys said:
Feel sorry for the poor buggers living there, having to put up with this invasion. Must be st for them.
I'd be very curious to visit the both of them, but there's no way I'd want to make a life in a place with such a stark divide a few metres away. And it won't be letting up any time soon.

The only way it gets solved is to make Morocco stinking rich. And everywhere else while you're at it.

Countdown

48,876 posts

224 months

Yesterday (16:19)
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Perhaps silly questions but

1. How do they get from Ceuta to Spain?

2. Why doesn't Spain just ceded Ceuta to Morocco?

Russ T Bolt

1,757 posts

311 months

Yesterday (16:19)
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abzmike said:
Seems more to do with Spain-Morocco relations than anything else. 14,000 have apparently already gone back over the border.
The usual talking heads here have already started yelling that they are all heading here, neglecting to mention that this part of Spain is on the other side of the Med.
No it isn't, it is on the other side of the Straight of Gibraltar


Bluevanman

9,980 posts

221 months

Yesterday (16:34)
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Will they be claiming asylum because Morocco is an unsafe place to live ?
In which case someone should tell the thousands of tourists who go there every year

irc

9,669 posts

164 months

Yesterday (16:39)
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Bluevanman said:
Will they be claiming asylum because Morocco is an unsafe place to live ?
In which case someone should tell the thousands of tourists who go there every year
Doesn't stop people escaping France to claim asylum here.

Jasandjules

72,433 posts

257 months

Yesterday (16:42)
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bunchofkeys said:
Feel sorry for the poor buggers living there, having to put up with this invasion. Must be st for them.

Edited by bunchofkeys on Friday 31st July 16:05
The reports I have read is that people are being attacked and raped in their homes, shops are being looted.... And things are being set on fire. Hopefully not accurate reports.

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48,876 posts

224 months

Yesterday (16:47)
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Jasandjules said:
The reports I have read is that people are being attacked and raped in their homes, shops are being looted.... And things are being set on fire. Hopefully not accurate reports.
I had a quick Google and I can't find any reports ssying that.

Can you share where you read it?

butchstewie

66,536 posts

238 months

Yesterday (16:49)
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abzmike said:
The usual talking heads here have already started yelling that they are all heading here, neglecting to mention that this part of Spain is on the other side of the Med.
I found it quite interesting how this is being reported and commented on v if you actually look on Google Maps.

bloomen

9,842 posts

187 months

Yesterday (16:55)
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Who knows whether the audio is real, sounds like more than the entire populaiton, but Ceuta didn't seem to roll out the red carpet for Sanchez on arrival - https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/20831460625423646...

LittleBobbyTables

6,105 posts

214 months

Yesterday (17:02)
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Jasandjules said:
bunchofkeys said:
Feel sorry for the poor buggers living there, having to put up with this invasion. Must be st for them.

Edited by bunchofkeys on Friday 31st July 16:05
The reports I have read is that people are being attacked and raped in their homes, shops are being looted.... And things are being set on fire. Hopefully not accurate reports.
Share the links, let us have a look, especially interested in the rape citations if you could share those-mega serious

Edited by LittleBobbyTables on Friday 31st July 17:40

hidetheelephants

35,194 posts

221 months

Yesterday (17:05)
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Maybe they could give it back to Morocco, then it wouldn't be a problem.