Another private plate transfer question.

[Sporky]

I have a private plate on my current car; it was first registered on this plate.

I'm part-exing it against a new factory order. The dealer has suggested registering the new car on an age related plate, but immediately transferring my registration to it before handover. This would make transferring simpler next time.

They've asked that I put the current plate on retention at least a couple of weeks before handover (which will be in November) so that I have a paper V5C for the current car.

As far as I can see I'll need to put the current plate on retention online, at which point DVLA will issue an age-related registration. I can then have plates made up and tell my insurer the new registration. But I think I can't drive until the new plates arrive. Is that right? Is there a simpler approach that doesn't leave me unable to use the car?

Ta in advance.

[interstellar]

You can drive it on the private plate until your new plates arrive, it doesn’t matter and often I do the plate change but don’t get new plates made up and hand the car in on the private plate with the V5 showing the age related plate. The dealer wants to put their own plates on anyway.

[Baldchap]

I've always just left the physical private plates on for a week or so until I trade the car and chucked the paperwork in the car in case of police, although I've never been stopped..

Don't forget to tell your insurance.

[Sporky]

interstellar said:

You can drive it on the private plate until your new plates arrive

That's not what it says at https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...

[alscar]

Sporky said:

I have a private plate on my current car; it was first registered on this plate.

I'm part-exing it against a new factory order. The dealer has suggested registering the new car on an age related plate, but immediately transferring my registration to it before handover. This would make transferring simpler next time.

They've asked that I put the current plate on retention at least a couple of weeks before handover (which will be in November) so that I have a paper V5C for the current car.

As far as I can see I'll need to put the current plate on retention online, at which point DVLA will issue an age-related registration. I can then have plates made up and tell my insurer the new registration. But I think I can't drive until the new plates arrive. Is that right? Is there a simpler approach that doesn't leave me unable to use the car?

Ta in advance.

I have part ex'd quite a few cars for new cars at different dealers and each time the dealer has just arranged the "old" personal plate appearing on the new car.On pick up its been amusing to park both cars next to one another each showing the same reg plate.
Tbh I don't know why the dealer would even suggest that as more hassle for you especially with changing then the plates and getting the new "old ones made up etc.
When I have put the new car onto a different personal plate I have done the retention a few days before but not bothered to change the plate onto its new allocated plate.
This process is automatic and a new number is given instantly on a certificate which lasts 3 days.
Assuming all done on line.
This way you have a record of transaction should the Police stop you -which is probably pretty unlikely.
When I have to then send them a copy of the new V5 a few days after receiving it it has never been an issue for the prtex'd car.

[alscar]

It also makes it easier for your Insurance changeover details -just tell them what time you want cover to start on the new car as opposed to then lapsing the cover on the old one being left.
I usually say pick up around 12.00 ish but am given the whole day to effect the changeover.
This will also save you two lots of admin charges no doubt.

[interstellar]

Sporky said:

interstellar said:

You can drive it on the private plate until your new plates arrive

That's not what it says at https://www.gov.uk/personalised-vehicle-registrati...

It’s semantics and happens thousands of times per day across the country. If you do the online transfer right now, how do you drive to potentially go and get some plates made up and collect them, it’s impossible. They’re just pointing out that you must change the plates and let your insurance company know at the same time, but when you do that, it’s up to you. I think the general rule is to do it within a couple of weeks, but you will be fine.

[Sporky]

interstellar said:

It s semantics and happens thousands of times per day across the country. If you do the online transfer right now, how do you drive to potentially go and get some plates made up and collect them, it s impossible.

I assumed the rules were made for people whose car had original age-related plates they could put back on.

Otherwise you'd order some plates online. But that takes a few days.

I am now stuck between entirely sensible advice given on the thread, and my autie-brain literal reading of the website.

I still don't quite get why the dealer won't let me do it all there on collection day, but they seem insistent.

[alscar]

Sporky said:

interstellar said:

It s semantics and happens thousands of times per day across the country. If you do the online transfer right now, how do you drive to potentially go and get some plates made up and collect them, it s impossible.

I assumed the rules were made for people whose car had original age-related plates they could put back on.

Otherwise you'd order some plates online. But that takes a few days.

I am now stuck between entirely sensible advice given on the thread, and my autie-brain literal reading of the website.

I still don't quite get why the dealer won't let me do it all there on collection day, but they seem insistent.

As said its simply what happens in the real world.
I would be simply telling the dealer this is a lot more hassle for you as the customer and involves extra time and expense for you and that's not what has been negotiated as part of the deal.
I imagine he wants to get the registration done his way to get into his orders for the month though !
Just politely " tell " him what you will therefore do.

[Magic919]

Or you can pop to Halfords or a motor factor and get them made up on the spot.

Just deal with it however it suits you.

[Cold]

I suspect the dealer knows from experience that the DVLA system isn't always 100% assured that any retention or transfer will go smoothly on a while-you-wait basis. He just wants to make sure that everything is in place for a smooth handover of your new car on collection day.

[Sporky]

Magic919 said:

Or you can pop to Halfords or a motor factor and get them made up on the spot.

Ah - so if I do it online I think I get an eV948 straight away and can use that?

Apologies for all the questions and thank you for all the advice. I am finding this disproportionately complicated, probably by my own doing.

[Cold]

Sporky said:

Ah - so if I do it online I think I get an eV948 straight away and can use that?

Apologies for all the questions and thank you for all the advice. I am finding this disproportionately complicated, probably by my own doing.

Yes, you get a form you print out at home to give to the plate maker (Halfords etc).

[Sporky]

Cold said:

I suspect the dealer knows from experience that the DVLA system isn't always 100% assured that any retention or transfer will go smoothly on a while-you-wait basis. He just wants to make sure that everything is in place for a smooth handover of your new car on collection day.

That sounds plausible - last time I was there (placing my order) they were doing 15 new vehicle collections in a day, so any delay would probably be rather painful.

Thanks again all.

There's a place that does plates a mere 10 minutes from home so that feels safe enough even if I do have to print the form here before I go.