7 years for trying to kill your wife with stabs to the head
7 years for trying to kill your wife with stabs to the head
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p4cks

Original Poster:

7,494 posts

228 months

Wednesday 5th August
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Can't get my head around this - only 7 years and 6 months in prison.

https://news.sky.com/story/man-jailed-for-trying-t...





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CMTMB

1,910 posts

24 months

Wednesday 5th August
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Some good news within the article though :

"He also said there is a significant chance Atutie will be deported"

Hopefully he is no longer our problem.


nikaiyo2

5,953 posts

224 months

Wednesday 5th August
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I still dont understand why we jail people like this. They should be deported on conviction.

98elise

32,572 posts

190 months

Wednesday 5th August
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nikaiyo2 said:
I still dont understand why we jail people like this. They should be deported on conviction.
So they serve no time?

CMTMB

1,910 posts

24 months

Wednesday 5th August
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98elise said:
nikaiyo2 said:
I still dont understand why we jail people like this. They should be deported on conviction.
So they serve no time?
I must admit I'm in two minds about that. It's questionable whether the significant cost of prison (and a space being taken up) is worth it when we'll just boot them out at the end anyway but it doesn't serve as much of a deterrent if they know deportation will be the only consequence.

Mr Penguin

4,696 posts

68 months

Wednesday 5th August
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98elise said:
So they serve no time?
It is probably a lot cheaper to keep someone in a Nigerian prison than a British one. Send him back, get the Nigerian Correctional Service to look after him and split the difference in cost. Cheaper for us, more money for the hard working Nigerian taxpayer.

JagLover

46,753 posts

264 months

Wednesday 5th August
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Mr Penguin said:
98elise said:
So they serve no time?
It is probably a lot cheaper to keep someone in a Nigerian prison than a British one. Send him back, get the Nigerian Correctional Service to look after him and split the difference in cost. Cheaper for us, more money for the hard working Nigerian taxpayer.
Sounds like the right answer.

oyster

13,726 posts

277 months

Wednesday 5th August
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JagLover said:
Mr Penguin said:
98elise said:
So they serve no time?
It is probably a lot cheaper to keep someone in a Nigerian prison than a British one. Send him back, get the Nigerian Correctional Service to look after him and split the difference in cost. Cheaper for us, more money for the hard working Nigerian taxpayer.
Sounds like the right answer.
Why would Nigeria pay money to house a prisoner who committed no crime in Nigeria?

nikaiyo2

5,953 posts

224 months

Wednesday 5th August
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98elise said:
So they serve no time?
Yup, they get sent back to wherever they came from and can never return to the uk unless acquitted. If we were trying to re-habilitate or whatever I would understand imprisonment but if they are being deported at the end of the sentence why not save all that money and ship them out at the start.


Jasandjules

72,588 posts

258 months

Wednesday 5th August
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Mr Penguin said:
It is probably a lot cheaper to keep someone in a Nigerian prison than a British one. Send him back, get the Nigerian Correctional Service to look after him and split the difference in cost. Cheaper for us, more money for the hard working Nigerian taxpayer.
Agreed. I suspect the conditions will be rather harsher for them too..

JoshSm

5,034 posts

66 months

Wednesday 5th August
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oyster said:
Why would Nigeria pay money to house a prisoner who committed no crime in Nigeria?
Did you miss the part where they're the ones getting paid?


J6542

3,996 posts

73 months

Wednesday 5th August
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I will be very surprised if he is ever deported. No doubt find out he is Gay or Trans and can’t be deported.

Opapayer

3,374 posts

14 months

Wednesday 5th August
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JoshSm said:
Did you miss the part where they're the ones getting paid?
He said split the difference. Doesn't that mean each side pays half the cost?

gareth_r

6,743 posts

266 months

Wednesday 5th August
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Opapayer said:
JoshSm said:
Did you miss the part where they're the ones getting paid?
He said split the difference. Doesn't that mean each side pays half the cost?
I'd say it means that if it costs £2 a day to house a prison inmate in Nigeria, and £164 a day in the UK, then we pay Nigeria £81 a day

We save £83 a day, Nigeria makes £79 a day. smile

(Figures provided by Google, and rounded for simplicity.)


Mr Penguin

4,696 posts

68 months

Wednesday 5th August
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gareth_r said:
I'd say it means that if it costs £2 a day to house a prison inmate in Nigeria, and £164 a day in the UK, then we pay Nigeria £81 a day

We save £83 a day, Nigeria makes £79 a day. smile

(Figures provided by Google, and rounded for simplicity.)
This was how I intended it. Obviously if we just told them to take him back they would say no, but if it can be mutually beneficial then let's make a deal.