Would you support a zero crime unpunished society?

[toasty]

Imagine a world where AI and robotics have advanced to a point where everyone could be perpetually followed by a government drone that would report every crime and misdemeanour, no matter how small, and you would be punished according to the law. Justice would be fair, correct and with no miscarriages.

On the up side, major crime would cease to be viable, violence down, safer and cleaner for everyone.

On the down side, your freedom to smoke a joint, take cash jobs to avoid tax, go a little over the speed limit etc. would be gone. Almost everyone would have a history of recorded crime and fines would become a regular outgoing.

Is this Utopia or Dystopia?

Would you welcome an environment like this or prefer our current situation? For the purposes of the poll, there are no shades of grey, no halfway measures. It's all in or all out.

What would you choose and why?

[Countdown]

I would want all the crimes that OTHER people do to be punished, severely, repeatedly, and to the fullest extent of the law..

The crimes I personally commit shouldn't really be classed as crimes. They've only been classed as crimes because of the Woke Fascist Authoritarian Government.

[People tend to be very hypocritical about what they do and don't consider consider to be crimes e.g. Driving like a bit of a twunt - "it's fine, he's only making progress, he was being held up by all those dawdlers". Driving like a twunt in Bradford - "Burn him!! He's a witch!!!]

[scenario8]

I break the law every single time I get in the car. I suspect I break all manner of other laws and regulations as I go about being an ordinary citizen.

So, no thanks.

[Zetec-S]

Sounds like a script for a new Black Mirror episode.

[MC Bodge]

Read "Brave New World", "1984" and "We"

[Lefty]

scenario8 said:

I break the law every single time I get in the car. .

[MC Bodge]

Lefty said:

scenario8 said:

I break the law every single time I get in the car. .

Sex crimes?

Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 13th August 11:14

[alock]

Letter of the law, or spirit of the law?

e.g. On my bicycle, I occasionally hop onto the pavement up a local steep hill to let cars pass if there are no pedestrians around.

[MC Bodge]

alock said:

Letter of the law, or spirit of the law?

e.g. On my bicycle, I occasionally hop onto the pavement up a local steep hill to let cars pass if there are no pedestrians around.

That's fine, but other people will be executed by drone for doing the same.
( Vote for me, other people will pay taxes and be punished)

Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 13th August 11:16

[Paddymcc]

Isnt that pretty much what China have?

You have to use biometric data to scan into areas where there is multiple surveillance tech keeping an eye on things. You also have to use your biometric data to pay for things via apps.

[CMTMB]

toasty said:

Is this Utopia or Dystopia?

It would be sold to us as Utopia but the reality would be Dystopia.

[scenario8]

Lefty said:

scenario8 said:

I break the law every single time I get in the car. .

As an example my road was made a 20 about a decade ago. Fwiw Four respondents out of seven supported the proposal (forwarded in council discussions by two councillors who live on my road, and whose husbands topped up the public vote to four). It doesn t matter really as by now the limit would have been dropped to 20 anyway. I would hazard a number so close to 100% it s barely worth recording of all road users (including cyclists I might add) exceed 20mph on that road. That would be before I get to the end of my wide, straight, downhill road where parking is prohibited entirely to get to the main road, again wide, straight and downhill that has been reduced to 20. Again, where conditions permit (which would be almost every single minute of the week) almost nobody, ever, travels at a speed at or below 20mph.

I m not so naive to believe I don t break the law and tbh I m quite happy with almost every other road user s attitude towards the lowered limits.

Did you expect me to say I drank Stella whilst driving or something?

[.:ian:.]

Drinking Stella anywhere should be a capital offence

[POIDH]

[Antony Moxey]

said:

I would hazard a number so close to 100% it’s barely worth recording of all road users (including cyclists I might add) exceed 20mph on that road

Why the 'including cyclists' bit? You know, with a few exceptions, cyclists are exempt from speed limits?

[HarryW]

Not sure if my grasp of English is diminishing with age, but that question as posed is both confusing and contradictory?

[scenario8]

alock said:

Letter of the law, or spirit of the law?

e.g. On my bicycle, I occasionally hop onto the pavement up a local steep hill to let cars pass if there are no pedestrians around.

Yep, I used to ride at a gentle pace on the pavements with my children in the full knowledge it was against the law. Often I’d be in the road next to them, but where I deemed it sensible to join them for a bit I’d be up on the pavements with them. I’m happy to admit that insane law breaking. Send me down.

They’ve been on the road 95+% of the time since they were about 8 so I think I may have got away with it now.

[toasty]

HarryW said:

Not sure if my grasp of English is diminishing with age, but that question as posed is both confusing and contradictory?

Should I add hyphens? zero-crime-unpunished? Maybe quotes. I hope you get the gist of it.

[768]

Definitely dystopia, no utopia.

[DaveCWK]

Nightmare dystopia as written. The law doesn't work in a way thats compatible with this sort of instant absolute justice.

E.g speed limits- if every single slight transgression came with a Demolition Man style immediate citation, we'd likely have a proper debate about speed limits and punishments and the law would change.