The UK s first speed limited cycleway or not?

[Foss62]

There have been one or two headlines in the last couple of days about the path next to the Cambridge Guided Busway now being subject to a monitored 15mph speed limit.

Cambs county council mention it here: https://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/residents/travel...

However, I rode a section of it yesterday and three days ago and saw no speed limit signs either on entry or along the route.

So - quite apart from the idea of enforcement being a ludicrous one - how is the average cyclist expected to know about this limit?

[OutInTheShed]

I think the 'new' Severn Crossing has speed limit signs on the cycle way?
I saw the signs last year IIRC.

[OldGermanHeaps]

If cycles arent required to have a speedometer fitted, how can this be enforced?

[SchillingTwo]

OldGermanHeaps said:

If cycles arent required to have a speedometer fitted, how can this be enforced?

With speed guns, or sensors in the road.

When you are caught speeding in a car the reading is not being taken from your own speedometer; it’ll be the same here.

[Antony Moxey]

OldGermanHeaps said:

If cycles arent required to have a speedometer fitted, how can this be enforced?

And how is the cyclist supposed to know how fast he’s going?

[zasker]

OutInTheShed said:

I think the 'new' Severn Crossing has speed limit signs on the cycle way?
I saw the signs last year IIRC.

I don’t think you can cycle on the ‘new’ Severn Crossing.

[zasker]

OutInTheShed said:

I think the 'new' Severn Crossing has speed limit signs on the cycle way?
I saw the signs last year IIRC.

I don’t think you can cycle on the ‘new’ Severn Crossing.

[chrisman]

Antony Moxey said:

OldGermanHeaps said:

If cycles arent required to have a speedometer fitted, how can this be enforced?

And how is the cyclist supposed to know how fast he s going?

Buy a speedometer?

[cliffords]

Antony Moxey said:

OldGermanHeaps said:

If cycles arent required to have a speedometer fitted, how can this be enforced?

And how is the cyclist supposed to know how fast he s going?

Cyclists have to conform with legal restrictions and rules of the road . Like any road user . If it's a speed limit you would need to travel within the limit or be subject to prosecution.

In answer to your direct question, some sort of speed measurement device as a wild guess. They are common place in other vehicles using the road .

[Magic919]

cliffords said:

Cyclists have to conform with legal restrictions and rules of the road . Like any road user . If it's a speed limit you would need to travel within the limit or be subject to prosecution.

As they are not motor vehicles, they are not governed by standard speed limits by law.

[cliffords]

Magic919 said:

cliffords said:

Cyclists have to conform with legal restrictions and rules of the road . Like any road user . If it's a speed limit you would need to travel within the limit or be subject to prosecution.

As they are not motor vehicles, they are not governed by standard speed limits by law.

The clue was in the thread title.

[trails]

cliffords said:

Magic919 said:

cliffords said:

Cyclists have to conform with legal restrictions and rules of the road . Like any road user . If it's a speed limit you would need to travel within the limit or be subject to prosecution.

As they are not motor vehicles, they are not governed by standard speed limits by law.

The clue was in the thread title.

And the deatil is in the article...the limit has been imposed to stop ebikes that can exceed 15mph. Pedal powered bikes are not mentioned. Pedal powered bikes have no requirement to have a speedo fitted,so are not subject to speed limits in the same way cars are.

[SchillingTwo]

Magic919 said:

As they are not motor vehicles, they are not governed by standard speed limits by law.

And?

This thread is discussing a new situation where they are.

Arguing that they are not limited somewhere else is like complaining if pulled over in Reading that it’d have been legal to do that speed outside Frankfurt.

[SchillingTwo]

trails said:

And the deatil is in the article...the limit has been imposed to stop ebikes that can exceed 15mph. Pedal powered bikes are not mentioned. Pedal powered bikes have no requirement to have a speedo fitted,so are not subject to speed limits in the same way cars are.

“A 15mph limit speed limit has been introduced on the maintenance track, the path used by riders, cyclists and pedestrians which runs alongside the busway. Motorcycles are not permitted to use the track, and electric bikes that exceed 15mph are not permitted. These restrictions are being implemented in partnership with the police.

Edited by SchillingTwo on Saturday 22 August 17:23

[Super Sonic]

SchillingTwo said:

A 15mph limit speed limit has been introduced on the maintenance track, the path used by riders, cyclists and pedestrians which runs alongside the busway. Motorcycles are not permitted to use the track, and electric bikes that exceed 15mph are not permitted. These restrictions are being implemented in partnership with the police.

Edited by SchillingTwo on Saturday 22 August 17:23

Does it apply to pedestrians?

[abzmike]

Now that 20mph limits are commonplace, shoild these not apply to bicycles?

[OldGermanHeaps]

Thought the ebike limit was 15.5mph, not 15 dead?
Seems a trivial difference but authority love to be pedantic with arbitrary numbers.

[okgo]

abzmike said:

Now that 20mph limits are commonplace, shoild these not apply to bicycles?

They don’t. And no.

[Steve_H80]

cliffords said:

Cyclists have to conform with legal restrictions and rules of the road . Like any road user . .

Unfortunately they don't which leads to all sorts of bizarre situations. The law really needs changing to 'road users' rather than the current exemption for cyclists and other excluded parties.

[frisbee]

Steve_H80 said:

Unfortunately they don't which leads to all sorts of bizarre situations. The law really needs changing to 'road users' rather than the current exemption for cyclists and other excluded parties.

The law really doesn't need changing. Bikes and legal e-bikes are fine.

The authorities and police need to crack down on illegal e-bikes and electric motorbikes. The clue is in the word "illegal".