Cashless Society, really?
Cashless Society, really?
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L1OFF

Original Poster:

3,754 posts

285 months

Sunday 30th August
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A bit of a vent, if you'll forgive me. ranting

My mobile provider (O2) managed to send an "(ESIM)" a thing I'd never heard of to an unknown person for my mobile number about 10 days ago.
The ESIM was for a Samsung (I have an IPhone) and this allowed the person (lets call them a hacker, as that's what they are) to clone my phone and in the process to lock me out of my service and of course to the outside world they are now me.

Credit card application's, online purchases (verifications' of course go to the mobile number), shoes, make up, £2.5k aircon unit and god knows what else.

I've spent hours on my phone trying to sort out banks (Halifax been a customer over 20 yrs), my mobile account, anything else they had got into ebay etc. And here we are over a week later new bank cards (no pin numbers yet) still no access to my current account, reset code posted I'm told as they need to confirm my identity, not seen it. So another 2 hrs on the phone today, that will be 7 days again.

So here I am no money, no access to money, can't transfer from savings account to another account. Funeral costs to pay. Nearest bank branch 60 miles away.

My thoughts on a cashless society have changed slightly.

CMTMB

1,854 posts

24 months

Sunday 30th August
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While your temporary access issue isn't ideal you've inadvertently highlighted the positives of using cards / digital over cash. The bank have the ability to lock down your money to keep it safe and you'll almost certainly get every penny back quite quickly. Try that when someone steals a pile of notes.

the-norseman

15,704 posts

200 months

Sunday 30th August
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Sounds like they got access to your O2 account firstly which allowed them to send the e-sim, once they had that, 2FA failes then.

an E-Sim isnt specific to Android or iOS.

TomTheTyke

631 posts

176 months

Sunday 30th August
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Exactly, unless you want to completely decouple from buying anything online, in which case fair enough but it’ll generate a fair bit of friction just going about things in 2026.

L1OFF

Original Poster:

3,754 posts

285 months

Sunday 30th August
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Its just a rant really as stated am I'm pissed off.

GetCarter

31,215 posts

308 months

Sunday 30th August
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.Gov (advised by GCHQ) are saying we should all have cash at home so when the Russians hack our banking system, we'll be able to buy food.

So cashless not an option according to them.

L1OFF

Original Poster:

3,754 posts

285 months

Sunday 30th August
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GetCarter said:
.Gov (advised by GCHQ) are saying we should all have cash at home so when the Russians hack our banking system, we'll be able to buy food.

So cashless not an option according to them.
Yes this has convinced me to keep a few bob in the house in case of emergencies.

Ziplobb

1,599 posts

313 months

Sunday 30th August
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That's why I always have a monkey on the hip and a few bags of sand. Daughter wants a new car so if something comes up locally over the bank holiday weekend I can just nip out to see it and do the deal and bring it home . no buggering about with apps, phones and most importantly wasted time.

Panamax

9,537 posts

63 months

Sunday 30th August
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L1OFF said:
Its just a rant really as stated am I'm pissed off.
Your rant is entirely justified. It's for practical purposes impossible to spend money these days without a mobile phone, so without the phone you're toast. I find it terrifying, not least because a couple of years ago some scumbag pretending to me me persuaded the phone company my phone was lost and to send them a new SIM, which they then used to spend to £10,000 on my credit card. Obviously no loss to me as it was clearly fraud but a ridiculous situation all round. Massive inconvenience at no fault of my own.

alscar

9,545 posts

242 months

Sunday 30th August
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Totally get your rant and hope it was just a little bit cathartic at least.
Having some money around is never a bad idea though - not everyone or for everything to not use isn’t guaranteed.
Things like funeral expenses could use a lot of cash and if you are the Executor you can use “ their “ accounts in which to pay the bills.
Hope your accounts get restored quickly and the fraudulent purchases are all refunded.

Mazinbrum

1,352 posts

207 months

Sunday 30th August
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GetCarter said:
.Gov (advised by GCHQ) are saying we should all have cash at home so when the Russians hack our banking system, we'll be able to buy food.

So cashless not an option according to them.
Where have they said this?

bigmowley

2,650 posts

205 months

Sunday 30th August
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Ziplobb said:
That's why I always have a monkey on the hip and a few bags of sand. Daughter wants a new car so if something comes up locally over the bank holiday weekend I can just nip out to see it and do the deal and bring it home . no buggering about with apps, phones and most importantly wasted time.
Me too. You can stuff living your life on a phone.

Panamax

9,537 posts

63 months

Sunday 30th August
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bigmowley said:
You can stuff living your life on a phone.
I'm glad it's not just me.

bigpriest

2,521 posts

159 months

Sunday 30th August
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GetCarter said:
.Gov (advised by GCHQ) are saying we should all have cash at home so when the Russians hack our banking system, we'll be able to buy food.So cashless not an option according to them.
I guess all the ATMs will be out of action as well, so how much wodge are we advised to store at home under a loose floorboard or in the fake baked beans tin that no one knows is a safe?


Skyedriver

23,317 posts

311 months

Tuesday 1st September
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bigpriest said:
GetCarter said:
.Gov (advised by GCHQ) are saying we should all have cash at home so when the Russians hack our banking system, we'll be able to buy food.So cashless not an option according to them.
I guess all the ATMs will be out of action as well, so how much wodge are we advised to store at home under a loose floorboard or in the fake baked beans tin that no one knows is a safe?
Is that where the saying "haven't got a bean" comes from?