RE: Audi RS4 (B5) | Spotted
RE: Audi RS4 (B5) | Spotted
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Audi RS4 (B5) | Spotted

There might not be another RS4 - time to celebrate one of the very best, in the best colour


Introduced more than a quarter of a century ago now, it's hard to recall the impact of the original RS4. But it’s equally difficult to overstate what the RS4 represented. Not only was it just 20hp less powerful than the M5 from a class above, it was also just 20hp less powerful than the entry-level mid-engined Ferrari of the time, the 360 Modena.

Imagine that now, from the latest RS5 - it would have more than 700hp. With the turbo torque and quattro four-wheel drive in its favour also, the RS4 totally redefined expectations of all-weather speed in the UK. Even a Skyline GT-R was (officially) 100hp less powerful. In truth, the RS4 was without rival in 1999, much as the RS2 had been a few years earlier, and therefore a very worthy replacement. 

It helped, of course, that the RS4 looked how it did as well. The original Audi RS car had been a handsome fast estate, but the second really took things up several notches. Perfectly melding aggression with discretion, the B5 became the template for how fast Audis should look, relying on track width and stance for attitude - not silly spoilers. To some extent, the current RS5 follows the guidelines, if pushing them to the extreme. 

This particular RS4 is in Nogaro Blue, the definitive Audi Sport colour. It’s the one always associated with the RS2, the one that’s brought back for special editions, the one that will always carry a premium. To make it better still, this one’s paired with light leather for the Recaros, which have somehow survived 25 years without turning the colour of the denim. 

Maybe this Audi has only ever been driven in linen trousers, but the tiny mileage of just 26,000 will play a part as well. The condition of it generally seems exceptional, which is always notable for a car like this: there’s not much in the world better suited to long distances and year-round usability than an RS4, yet this has barely covered a thousand miles a year. Indeed, the first 18,000 were covered by the first digital MOT, the rest added on gently since (including a six-year hibernation.)

So there might be a couple of bits and bobs that would benefit from rejuvenation, as well as just proper use: it’s done about 2,000 miles in 17 years. There’s no mention of service records in the ad, though the condition of the paint, wheels, upholstery and engine bay would very much suggest it’s been cherished as a collectable rather than just forgotten about. 

Certainly the B5 qualifies as a modern classic these days. As well as the design, performance and historical significance in its favour, there’s the rarity (just 532 for the UK), the Cosworth input and the manual-only configuration. As Audi Sport embarks on its hybrid-only path that’s near enough mandatory these days, so the interest in the old warriors only seems likely to increase. Especially when they look this good. 

Does that mean an RS4 is now a £55k car? When an RS2 can be an £80k prospect, perhaps it does. In this specification and with so little use, there’s undoubtedly going to be interest, even if keeping a B5 in as fine a fettle as this won’t come cheaply. If only the very best of the best will do when it comes to old Audis, then look no further.


SPECIFICATION | AUDI RS4 AVANT (B5)

Engine: 2,671cc, twin-turbo V6
Transmission: 6-speed manual, four-wheel drive via Torsen differential
Power (hp): 381@7,000 rpm
Torque (lb ft): 324@2,500-6,000rpm
MPG: 24
CO2: 288g/km
Year registered: 2001
Recorded mileage: 26,587
Price new: £46,500 (2000)
Yours for: £54,995

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Dr G

Original Poster:

15,961 posts

271 months

Yesterday (11:09)
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This is X818GGX now X121UFO. I sold this back in 2008 to a 'collector', and it's passed around a fair bit in the years since. It pops up for sale every once in a while with a couple of hundred more miles on the odometer but 5k more on the price.

The AI written advert is weird, and I've no idea why it shows 1 owner when it's 6. I fitted RNSE to it way back in the day, might even have the original radio in a draw somewhere...

Photos from February it seems, but keeper changed in June. Who knows.

DaveyBoyWonder

3,875 posts

203 months

Yesterday (11:27)
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Price doesn't seem too mental for such a low mileage B5 although I'm sure I've heard the B7 is meant to be the better car (thats where my money would go anyway although the price of B8s is massively appealing - still seem to be on a downward path and have passed B7s on the way down...).

cerb4.5lee

44,520 posts

209 months

Yesterday (11:35)
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A lovely colour, and it looks in a nice condition too. That's nice I reckon, although I'd personally struggle paying over £50k for it though I think.

Resolutionary

1,536 posts

200 months

Yesterday (11:36)
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In this spec / condition it's probably in my top 3 want list. What a thing.

Of course, there are 'better' RS products, better estates, better powertrains, etc etc.
Something about the swollen, retro looks, plush Recaros and Cosworth connection makes me all hot under the collar.

nismo48

7,012 posts

236 months

Yesterday (12:32)
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The condition and rarity in fairness probably contributes to the higher price.
Lovely old fast estate nevertheless.

Wab1974uk

1,392 posts

56 months

Yesterday (13:47)
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Yes please.

Handsomely aggressive yet subtle enough for " If you know you know" type of thing.

Coriander

22 posts

155 months

Yesterday (15:05)
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Owned one back in the day. Subtle aggression personified. Great build quality. Fast and practical.
As a driver’s car it was a disappointment. Chassis flexed, brakes over servo’d, agricultural gear change etc. Shame as expectations based on appearance were high.

CapScarlet

83 posts

176 months

Yesterday (16:47)
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I owned one of these between 2001 and 2004 when I was living in Germany.

It was an absolute animal and I loved it.

175 mph flat out on the autobahn despite the 'voluntary' 155 mph limit amongst German manufacturers at the time. It's speed on the autobahn only matched by the turbo lag when trying to pull onto a busy roundabout.

Augustus Windsock

3,787 posts

184 months

Yesterday (16:49)
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Looks lovely but the comment from a previous owner makes me wary
Is the RS4 that Audi don’t support, parts-wise?
If so I wonder how hard it will become to keep this on the road, although it sounds like previous owners have used it a bit, but not much.

Leins

10,431 posts

177 months

Yesterday (16:58)
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Augustus Windsock said:
Looks lovely but the comment from a previous owner makes me wary
Is the RS4 that Audi don t support, parts-wise?
If so I wonder how hard it will become to keep this on the road, although it sounds like previous owners have used it a bit, but not much.
One of the main reasons I got rid of mine. I did manage to source some secondhand parts when required to keep it going, but it would be a worry now as I believe B5 RS4s are no longer being broken for parts given the values these days

Good car though, glad I owned it. As per the poster above, it was in its element on the Autobahn drinking Aral 102

GreatScott2016

2,508 posts

117 months

Yesterday (17:24)
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cerb4.5lee said:
A lovely colour, and it looks in a nice condition too. That's nice I reckon, although I'd personally struggle paying over £50k for it though I think.
Spot on. I’m a big fan, but I can’t comprehend that asking price. As aside, I saw a lovely 2019 plate RS4 in dark green in Harrogate this afternoon. Wonderful looking thing smile

JohnnyUK

1,108 posts

107 months

Yesterday (18:35)
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DaveyBoyWonder said:
Price doesn't seem too mental for such a low mileage B5 although I'm sure I've heard the B7 is meant to be the better car (thats where my money would go anyway although the price of B8s is massively appealing - still seem to be on a downward path and have passed B7s on the way down...).
Drive a B8, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised!



mwstewart

8,556 posts

217 months

Yesterday (18:55)
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Lovely. There was a colour matched Alcantara steering wheel and gear knob available back then. I had a set for the S4. Totally impractical but I loved it with the light leather.

RSstuff

1,228 posts

44 months

Yesterday (19:48)
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JohnnyUK said:
Drive a B8, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised!
You'd be more pleasantly surprised if you drive a B9. Mapped B5 is fast in a straight line, that's it.

Toyoda

1,584 posts

129 months

Yesterday (20:26)
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You can't be a PHer and dislike this car, it's an icon.

Wheel Turned Out

2,368 posts

67 months

Yesterday (20:27)
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A beautiful thing. What's the reality like on parts supply with these? Are Audi really as bad as people claim?

(I understand this particular low mileage example is probably just collection-fodder, but just in general).

Leins

10,431 posts

177 months

Yesterday (21:12)
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RSstuff said:
You'd be more pleasantly surprised if you drive a B9. Mapped B5 is fast in a straight line, that's it.
I’ve heard this so many times, along with warnings that it will understeer into the first tree on a corner, but it’s really not the case. The B5 RS4 drives well on all road types, and has better steering feel than many seem to suggest. In fact I actually found the steering feel no worse than that of my E46 CSL, but again the internet won’t tell you that

It’s not a Lotus Elise, but it is a decent enough car to enjoy driving with IME

Mr Tidy

31,404 posts

156 months

Yesterday (22:44)
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I love the colour combination, but I'd still rather have a B7 just for that lovely N/A V8.

I seem to remember Clarkson raving about it, although I'm not sure if that is a good thing or not!